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Vehicle & Technical => Discovery => Topic started by: barmiebrumie on September 04, 2006, 15:51:46
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After a great day out sunday with fellow MC'ers, my clutch is just about to go (starting to slip under lot's of strain,
Question's are:-
Anybody done one :?: ,
How long did it take :?: boom time 5hrs,
Any recomdation's :?: ,
Should i change the fork while I'm at it :?: .
Thanks in advance,
John.
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http://forums.mud-club.com/viewtopic.php?t=28420
yes i would change the fork just to eliminate it if it is a bit week, you dont want to strip it all down again in a short time.
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After a great day out sunday with fellow MC'ers, my clutch is just about to go (starting to slip under lot's of strain,
Question's are:-
Anybody done one :?: ,
How long did it take :?: boom time 5hrs,
Any recomdation's :?: ,
Should i change the fork while I'm at it :?: .
Thanks in advance,
John.
John
The simple answer is........, I'm sure the West Mids team will offer every assistance in doing the works...., as long as its not outside your place :lol: )
With the correct kit, it will take a day......, without it 2-days. You can either take out the box or take out the engine and box. Some say its easier taking out the whole lot.
Chris
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Change the fork defo...
The fork is the thing that died on mine and the clutch centred said that is the usual problem and not the clutch itself. Besides £20ish for an arm against doing or paying to have the box out again!!
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For what it costs change the fork aswell (£12), bit of advice I got was to weld some 4mm thick plate behind the fulcrum on the fork and it will last a lot longer!
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But you can't just drop the rear propshaft and ease the box back enough to do teh clutch? I seem to recall that this was the way people used to do Range Rover clutches?
Mike
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I'll help if you need me, but after your last escapade as Chris says I don't think it’s a good idea outside your house :(scared): I’ve done several Landrover clutch changes in my time, although never on a disco.
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After a great day out sunday with fellow MC'ers, my clutch is just about to go (starting to slip under lot's of strain,
Question's are:-
Anybody done one :?: ,
How long did it take :?: boom time 5hrs,
Any recomdation's :?: ,
Should i change the fork while I'm at it :?: .
Thanks in advance,
John.
John
The simple answer is........, I'm sure the West Mids team will offer every assistance in doing the works...., as long as its not outside your place :lol: )
With the correct kit, it will take a day......, without it 2-days. You can either take out the box or take out the engine and box. Some say its easier taking out the whole lot.
Chris
Don't worry my niebour is away on holiday to Bangladesh at the mo, so might be the best time to do it :wink: ,
Anyone fancy giving nme a hand please let me know & i'll get swmbo to top up supplies of tea/coffee & bacon buttie's,
Have got high lift axle stands, trolley jacks ect just need extra hand's, will get the clutch & fork tomorrow (genuine lr part's)
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gimme a shout ,when your doing it john ill come over :lol: ...wiv me camera :D :D :D oh and spanners
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I was going to do a service on mine at the weekend, when are you thinking of doing it? Could always do the servicing at the bottom of a different road for a change :lol: :lol: :lol:
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I was going to do a service on mine at the weekend, when are you thinking of doing it? Could always do the servicing at the bottom of a different road for a change :lol: :lol: :lol:
i took mine for one today ,but i couldnt get it through the church doors :D :D :D :D
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Ready when every body else is, if we block the road off with landrover's we will have no bother at all :lol: ,
weekend would be great, anything else i need :?: clutch lioning tool :?: ,
Chris, if your doing a service dont buy oil I have a couple of gallon here,
Let me know guy's & I'll get every thing ready,
Thank's John.
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I heard it easier to take the engine out - I reckon its a days work to do.
the top bellhousing bolts are a pig on 200tdi.
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Which clutch are you going for? Either Borg & Beck or Valeo are best, make sure it's the 3 piece kit (pressure plate, cover and release bearing) plus a fork.
Most of the suppliers do a kit for about 80quid I think.
Aligning tool yes :wink:
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just take the gearbox out it is a lot easier, been doing one tonight with Diebok,gearbox out, new clutch fitted and gearbox back in. Started at approx 18.20 and packed kit away(too dark) at approx 21.00.Just gotta refit props and rebuild the inside :)
If the disco has a lift on it, you can do it without even jacking it up as you only need to slide the gearbox back enough to get at the clutch/release bearing.
just my view of course
Neil....
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Will do, when is good for every one :?: , will get it up on highlift stands friday night & start to undo what i can,
Thanks again John.
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Either Saturday or Sunday is good for me :?
Weather permitting is the big factor I guess :roll:
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Either Saturday or Sunday is good for me :?
Weather permitting is the big factor I guess :roll:
Might take the gazebo out of the garden (don't tell swmbo :wink: ),
Anyday will be great thank's,
John.
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i have a sheet which will cover the car and much of the street if you need it ,its what i sat under when i stripped my 90
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My eldest daughter's boyfreind has an uncle who is a priest so I'll ask him to have a word for us as well :lol: ,
& if Pete the pirate come's he can sing some song's to ward off the rain :wink: ,
John.
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the sheet is big and very water proof ...5.95 hours to do your clutch according to autodata,i reckon we can halve that :^o
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tell me when and i'll be there.
Chris
ps: we could do it at ours with no [PooPoo] as our friend over the road is about to get a 10-year ASBO and were going to have another loud party :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: and no one can get nicked for parking legally :lol:
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I can help so just let me know when. I have an undercover area at work big enough for about 4 vehicles if you want. We would need to be out of the way before Monday morning but could start after 6.00pm on Friday. Area in question has 3 walls and building above it but the back wall is open.
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that sounds spot on...., John?
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Could do a bit of welding while we're at the God's too? :lol: :wink:
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Well I good at welding :roll: , if nothing else :wink: ,
I dont mind where we do it so I'll go with the flow & leave it to you guy's,
Thanks John.
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Well I good at welding :roll: , if nothing else :wink: ,
I dont mind where we do it so I'll go with the flow & leave it to you guy's,
Thanks John.
The offers are in so choose a location and in the immortal words of Bob the builder "we can fix it yes we can" :(biglaugh):
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Well I good at welding :roll: , if nothing else :wink: ,
I dont mind where we do it so I'll go with the flow & leave it to you guy's,
Thanks John.
The offers are in so choose a location and in the immortal words of Bob the builder "we can fix it yes we can" :(biglaugh):
If it's ok with everybody it over the Godfrey's shipyard then,
Thanks again to the west mid's crew :wink: ,
John.
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John
Just let us know the time and day that you’re bringing her over. I think I'll bring my barbecue so if we all bring bacon & cobs etc we'll be able to keep ourselves fed. Barbecue also has a gas ring and I’ll also bring the kettle so well be watered as well. Who’s taking what in the way of tools?
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I'll supply all the food, bacon & sos, cob's ect if anyone want's other food let me know & swmbo said she will get it in ready :) ,
I'll bring as many tool's as I can get in, got two trolley jack's one small light weight & one 3 ton garage type also four highlift axle stand's,
Anything else you can think of just let me know & I'll beg or borrow from some of the lad's here at work,
Andy have you got any compressed air there :?:
Thank's John.
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Andy have you got any compressed air there :?: Thank's John.
If not, I maybe able to blag one from work (110psi), + air lines, + impact sockets.
Do you want my highlift ramps?
Chris
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Andy have you got any compressed air there :?: Thank's John.
If not, I maybe able to blag one from work (110psi), + air lines, + impact sockets.
Do you want my highlift ramps?
Chris
Comp air would be a great help, dont know about the ramps what ever is the best,
John.
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Have Comp air but not in the area were using to do buttercup (yellow flower & a jolly fine name for your disco) :lol:
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Have Comp air but not in the area were using to do butter cup (yellow flower & a jolly fine name for your disco) :lol:
buttercup :(biggrin): :(biggrin): :(biggrin):
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John
Are you planning to start work on buttercup :P on Saturday morning :?: & if so at what time :?:
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Andy,
I'll as early as you like, I am an early riser so what ever time you like as long as I'm not getting anyone up to early,
Let me know what time you can let me in & I'll be there,
Thanks John,
PS:- swmbo want's to know if any request for any other food arpart fron bac & sos :?:
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i finish work at 7 so could come straight over :lol: :lol:
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I have a few things to sort out on Sat morning first so would 10.00am ish be ok with you all.
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So where we doing it then :wink:
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At the Cap'ns dry dock :wink: :lol:
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See you all at 10am,
Thanks John.
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See you all at 10am, Thanks John.
Whats Matt going to do for three hours :?:
10:00, kin hell, only an hours work and we'll be stopping for lunch :wink:
Lee's coming, don't need ramps/axle stands now...., be like working in a pit for him :lol: :lol:
Oh well, if its nice, i'll be able to paint Tigger :lol:
See you all at 10 then
Chris
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10:00, kin hell, only an hours work and we'll be stopping for lunch :wink:
10am + 1 hour work = lunch.... I take it that's with the obligatory tea breaks every thirty minutes then :(biglaugh): :(biglaugh): :(biglaugh):
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See you all at 10am, Thanks John.
Whats Matt going to do for three hours :?:
10:00, kin hell, only an hours work and we'll be stopping for lunch :wink:
Lee's coming, don't need ramps/axle stands now...., be like working in a pit for him :lol: :lol:
Oh well, if its nice, i'll be able to paint Tigger :lol:
See you all at 10 then
Chris
Dont worry Matt can come to mine & I'll make him a nice bowl of porrige :lol: ,
John.
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10:00, kin hell, only an hours work and we'll be stopping for lunch :wink:
10am + 1 hour work = lunch.... I take it that's with the obligatory tea breaks every thirty minutes then :(biglaugh): :(biglaugh): :(biglaugh):
Of course and the corporate pee break reading the paper, etc.
What time we stopping for afternoon brunch :?:
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10:00, kin hell, only an hours work and we'll be stopping for lunch :wink:
10am + 1 hour work = lunch.... I take it that's with the obligatory tea breaks every thirty minutes then :(biglaugh): :(biglaugh): :(biglaugh):
What’s all this about tea :(bigshock): good old strong scrumpy should be the order of the day :(bloodshot): Pete has asked me to tell you that he will be watching things very closely and woe betide any of you who fall foul of him :(biglaugh): Pete would type this himself but he is far to busy and important for such things. Personally I wonder if typing is a problem for him because of the size of his hands. :(biggrin):
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WOT no pink vodka :?: :lol:
John.
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I still have the brand on my hand (I'm a poet you know) from the last batch we had at Chris's house :(bloodshot):
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See you all at 10am, Thanks John.
Whats Matt going to do for three hours :?:
10:00, kin hell, only an hours work and we'll be stopping for lunch :wink:
Lee's coming, don't need ramps/axle stands now...., be like working in a pit for him :lol: :lol:
Oh well, if its nice, i'll be able to paint Tigger :lol:
See you all at 10 then
Chris
Dont worry Matt can come to mine & I'll make him a nice bowl of porrige :lol: ,
John.
:(bloodshot): matts gonna look like this oh well then see you at 10 (for my porridge) :lol: :lol:
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Best of luck with it guys, let's know how you get on with it
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6 blokes and a very tight space .... should be fun :(scared):
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6 blokes and a very tight space .... should be fun :(scared):
We know a song about that :lol: .... and the little one said roll over, roll over :wink:
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6 blokes and a very tight space .... should be fun :(scared):
We know a song about that :lol: .... and the little one said roll over, roll over :wink:
:(biggrin): :(biggrin): :(biggrin): :(contented): roll over
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6 blokes and a very tight space .... should be fun :(scared):
5 + lee, not that tight....., now :wink: :wink:
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6 blokes and a very tight space .... should be fun :(scared):
5 + lee, not that tight....., now :wink: :wink:
:lol: :lol: :lol: ,
John.
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I hope you say you're prayers before you go to bed tonight John! :twisted: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Have faith O-BE 1, have faith, feel the force,
John.
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ive got the plasma cutter :(mad):
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we have air equipment, be done by lunch time...... (not saying which day/week though :lol: :lol:
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wooo hoooo :lol:
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Up and ready, I just have to take Charlotte to Mere Green at 7.30am for her 7.45am start at work and James & Nick to Bromsgrove at 8.30am so they arrive at 9.00am. I should be back home at about 9.30am. :roll: :roll: :wink:
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Good luck chaps! :-s :lol: :lol:
(not that I think you're gong to need it)
P.S ChrisW is erm still in bed :-$ :-$
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:(biggrin): :(biggrin):thank you susie :wink:
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Job done........, like a goodun, just about seven-hours. Plus, chrisw's seats repaired and full oil change, pauls mitsi's new brake pads allround, johns electrics rewired, andy's rear brake hose extended.
John, thanks for lunch and andy, thanks for cooking it.
MC team spirit =D>
Chris
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Hear hear! Thanks Andy for the facilities, thanks Lee for borrowing Andy's welder! Thanks Chris and Andy for helping with the trailing arms. Thanks Matt for the brew and thanks Paul for fixing the kettle to make the last one!
How it should be :(contented):
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lorna and myself had a great day ,a good bit of club spirit cheers guys :wink: :wink: :D
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Really enjoyed spending the day with such a nice group of friends :D Thanks to Chris9119 for the supply and fitting of his patent rear break line extension kit. :wink: :P
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andy :oops: ive just found your dvd :oops: :lol: ill get it over to you :lol: can the others check they have thiers please :wink: :oops:
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any pics of this clutch change :D
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I bet those people passing through wondered what the hell was going on with all those 4x4's been worked on :wink: . Was great fun today plus I got to have a look around my old school, felt a bit like one of those celeb's on 'a little help from my friends'. Quite apt really 8)
Always a pleasure and never a chore being with fellow mudclubbers, and today was what a club member is all about.
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ok if it works click on the link :wink:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QD-EA1GX_vo
now with sound :lol:
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cool but no sound :D
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yea i know sound was disabled / trying to find appropriate soundtrack :lol: so it will have later :lol:
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cool
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as you could see from the video no one was standing round with nothing to do :lol: :lol: it felt sooo right :lol:
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was it at a school or something
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it was 4x4 maintanace school :lol: and you have just given me the soundtrack ..ta
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put the link up when u done it :D
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BIG BIG thanks to all the west mid's mud club crew for all the help on saturday clutch is now soooooo nice, no snatchig into gear & no sliping, GREAT, a good day had by all I think, as said earlier we managed to do a bit more than just a clutch :lol: ,
Once again thanks chap's,
Andygod, chris9119, chrisw, brumlee, wingnut & paul,
So when is the welding weekend going to be :wink: ,
Thanks all John.
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So when is the welding weekend going to be :wink: ,
Thanks all John.
Very soon I hope :D
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Very soon I hope :D
You just wanna play with my mask don't you :lol: :lol:
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is it like this lee... coz that may be why john wants a weld :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Lee's mask is more Darth Vader than super hero :wink: :lol:
Just look at the last picture I took of Lee welding.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v732/andygod/DVader.jpg)
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Mind you, lee's dog is even stranger
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v732/andygod/batmandog.jpg)
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video of the day now with sound ...oh and andy dancing :lol: :lol: :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QD-EA1GX_vo
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mat it dont work
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try again
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nope says this This is a private video. If you have been sent this video, please make sure you accept the sender's friend request
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now sorted :wink:
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oki what you done with it :wink:
John.
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Feels like I'm sitting about 6" higher in the seat now - even harder to get in and out! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Got underneath to grease my props etc. today and it looks like the rear output seal on the transfer box has blown :roll: just as well I didn't do the gearbox oils! :lol:
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My front one has gone :twisted: , also think my pas pump has had it as the steering keeps going very stiff :twisted: ,
John.
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No, Andy wants to wear this one :wink: (http://www.helmetguy.com/gallery/albums/Jolly-Roger-hood/Buckaneer_mask_right_front.jpg)
I'll bring some for the other members (http://glasnost.itcarlow.ie/~powerk/china/kunming/kunming-welders.JPG) :lol: :lol:
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heres mine :lol: