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Vehicle & Technical => Defender => Topic started by: locknut on February 27, 2007, 20:51:22

Title: Torque setting
Post by: locknut on February 27, 2007, 20:51:22
What torque setting is the front wheel bearing on my defender,single nut only. I have a cd rom but having problems accessing it.  Also i'd need a front inner hub if anybody has one :!:
Title: Torque setting
Post by: Eeyore on February 28, 2007, 07:45:49
That doesn't make a heap of sense, I'm afraid.

Are we talking about the 52mm hub-nut?  :-s

If we are, there is no specified torque setting for it, and it should have two nuts, plus a locking washer!!  :shock:

Clarification required, please  :?

Cheers
 8)
Eeyore
Title: Torque setting
Post by: Porny on February 28, 2007, 09:30:03
Quote from: "Eeyore"
That doesn't make a heap of sense, I'm afraid.

Are we talking about the 52mm hub-nut?  :-s

If we are, there is no specified torque setting for it, and it should have two nuts, plus a locking washer!!  :shock:

Clarification required, please  :?

Cheers
 8)
Eeyore


Eeyore... call yourself an engineer  :wink:  :wink: ....

It depends what year the vehicle is... but the pre 1999 method is below:

From the Land Rover Workshop manual:



In all honesty I don't usually use the first torque figure and set the bearing up by feel... but the outside nut should be torqued up to 50Nm


And then from '99 onwards the two nuts were replaced with one.. and thus the method changes.





Ian
Title: Torque setting
Post by: Eeyore on February 28, 2007, 11:12:25
No, but I'm pretty good on nipping up wheel bearings  :wink:

The described methods wortk fine if boths nuts are there and I read the orignal post as there being only one nut present! My bad  :lol:

If both nuts are present, then yes, feel free to torque the outer nut up, but before bashing the lock washer over make sure the inner nut hasn't been affected by tightening the outer nut up (and trust me, it happens).

Sorry for the confusion!

Cheers
 8)
Eeyore
Title: Torque setting
Post by: mmgemini on February 28, 2007, 11:17:10
Quote from: "Eeyore"
That doesn't make a heap of sense, I'm afraid.

Are we talking about the 52mm hub-nut?  :-s

If we are, there is no specified torque setting for it, and it should have two nuts, plus a locking washer!!  :shock:

Clarification required, please  :?

Cheers
 8)
Eeyore


There is now.
In this day and age manufacturers want you to use their dealerships.
When I was taught a torque wrench was for very special jobs. Now it seems you need one for every job.

This is how I do it on the two locking nut type.

http://forum.landrovernet.com/showthread.php?t=81748

Well that's the way I was taught.
Title: Torque setting
Post by: Porny on February 28, 2007, 11:39:10
Quote from: "mmgemini"

There is now.
In this day and age manufacturers want you to use their dealerships.
When I was taught a torque wrench was for very special jobs. Now it seems you need one for every job.

This is how I do it on the two locking nut type.

http://forum.landrovernet.com/showthread.php?t=81748

Well that's the way I was taught.


Which is fine if you know what your are doing.... and the 'way I was taught' is the most important part of that statement.

But at least with a specific torque figure in theory even a complete mechanical novice should not be able to get it wrong...

The term 'fitters feel' is not something that a complete novice will know.
I've known people just do everything up 'FT' (and I mean very, very FT!!)... and then wonder why stuff fails or bolts snap  :shock:


Ian
Title: Torque setting
Post by: V8MoneyPit on February 28, 2007, 17:36:24
Just noticed the OP's user name...... how apt for this thread  :lol:
Title: Torque setting
Post by: locknut on February 28, 2007, 19:25:19
thanx for all the info, it's a late 1999 model with a single locking nut and a partly worn inner hub.....more money....... :(bigcry):
Title: Torque setting
Post by: mmgemini on March 01, 2007, 12:41:50
Quote from: "Porny"
Quote from: "mmgemini"

There is now.
In this day and age manufacturers want you to use their dealerships.
When I was taught a torque wrench was for very special jobs. Now it seems you need one for every job.

This is how I do it on the two locking nut type.

http://forum.landrovernet.com/showthread.php?t=81748

Well that's the way I was taught.


Which is fine if you know what your are doing.... and the 'way I was taught' is the most important part of that statement.

But at least with a specific torque figure in theory even a complete mechanical novice should not be able to get it wrong...

The term 'fitters feel' is not something that a complete novice will know.
I've known people just do everything up 'FT' (and I mean very, very FT!!)... and then wonder why stuff fails or bolts snap  :shock:


Ian


I know what you mean Ian  :roll:

My daughter rang the other week wanting to know rhe torque of the hocky stick big nut. I told her to put her ex boyfriend and told him FT would do. She hasn't stopped laughing since he passed the message back to her.

Back to topic.
Am I right in thinking that the later hub nuts can be changed to the earlier ones. Or is that just a tale.
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