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Vehicle & Technical => Defender => Topic started by: Leigh on August 21, 2006, 21:06:18

Title: 110 suspension
Post by: Leigh on August 21, 2006, 21:06:18
My 110 has much higher suspension on the rear than on the front. Could this be because its heavy duty?

I would like to raise the front so it is at the same height, can this be done as I like the clearance the rear gives me under the arches? Or would I need to completely change the suspension?

Cheers,
Leigh
Title: 110 suspension
Post by: Sharpshooter on August 21, 2006, 21:13:38
Hi Leigh. Is it worse than mine?

I have a 2" lift all round. And ive just made some 2" spacers to go at the front to even it out a bit. Ill post a pic when ive finished.

This pic is just the 2" lift.
Title: 110 suspension
Post by: Leigh on August 21, 2006, 21:20:06
Looks about the same minus the 2" I'd have thought it would have sat level if you had changed the springs all round. Would that mean the spring mounts are set higher than on other models?

Did the 2" spacers do the job?

Cheers
Title: 110 suspension
Post by: bullfrog on August 21, 2006, 21:51:54
The 110s sit higher so when they are loaded they ride level.
Spacers would work untill you chuck a load in the back when it may sit down giving interesting handling !
Title: 110 suspension
Post by: dew1911 on August 22, 2006, 08:52:50
I haven't noticed mine having a particuly un level sit (not near that!) and mines got HD Springs!
Title: 110 suspension
Post by: Miniman on August 22, 2006, 11:40:35
Anybody have a idea what Blue/Yellow springs are as I have just been given a set.......
Title: 110 suspension
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on August 22, 2006, 11:45:11
Quote from: "bullfrog"
The 110s sit higher so when they are loaded they ride level.
Spacers would work untill you chuck a load in the back when it may sit down giving interesting handling !



Exactly

My 110 Hard-Top was that way inclined, as is the 'Heritage'

The situation may be differant for CSW's fitted with Boge self-levelling units ?
Title: 110 suspension
Post by: AbyssDJ on August 22, 2006, 11:53:46
as said above, 110's do sit slightly higher at the rear, its how they are designed.
Title: 110 suspension
Post by: AbyssDJ on August 22, 2006, 11:54:57
blue springs are bearmach, yellow MIGHT be britpart, if i remember right
Title: 110 suspension
Post by: Miniman on August 22, 2006, 12:00:59
Sorry I may be did not explain..... No they are black springs with Blue/yellow stripes. I am using Rangie red/whites stripes which are very soft.....

Blue/white striped
Title: 110 suspension
Post by: Jimbo on August 22, 2006, 12:07:06
Quote from: "Miniman"
Anybody have a idea what Blue/Yellow springs are as I have just been given a set.......


I guess by 'blue/yellow', you mean the splash of paint on the spring - the code that identifies what rating/vehicle they fit etc ?

Don't know myself, but a quick Google found this:

http://www.landroverclub.net/Club/HTML/Spring_rates.html

Jim
Title: 110 suspension
Post by: adafish on August 22, 2006, 15:09:55
i had the same problem, so a pair of  YELLOW were fitted to BETTY no she stands level and looks nice....2" on the front and 1.5" on the back..               WITH BLACK MODS IS THE 2" LIFT
Title: 110 suspension
Post by: Sharpshooter on August 22, 2006, 20:07:04
My 110 has no spacers at the moment. I have an Mm4X4 2" lift kit fitted, with es9000 shocks. It handles perfectly, weather loaded or unloaded. The polybushes make a large difference too. I often have at least a ton in the back, and it doesnt make it unstable. The 110 pickups, have very little weight in the back (compared to a CSW). Mine has no self leveler either.

The 2"spacers im fitting to the front, ar purely to level it out a bit, as i have a very heavy duty BullBar going on. And maybe in the future a Winch.

Ill get some pics up soon, when i have fitted the spacers. :D
Title: 110 suspension
Post by: JD LWB on August 26, 2006, 14:58:24
Mine's a 1990 CSW with the self leveler on what I assume are standard springs and that sits nice and level unladen. :D  

I haven't had any real weight in the back so-far, so I can't comment on what it does laden, but I assume that's what the self leveler is there for.
Title: 110 suspension
Post by: Range Rover Blues on August 26, 2006, 18:16:30
Yes the self-level 'pumps up' when the back suspension dips down too far so keeping the car level when loaded/towing without too hard a ride when empty.  They can make the back a bit wallowy though as it is effectively a central spring.
Title: 110 suspension
Post by: Leigh on September 11, 2006, 20:42:48
Would fitting rear springs on the front help level it? I'm happy with the height of the rear and the clearance it gives but just want raise the front to level it ang give the same amount of clearance
Title: 110 suspension
Post by: Sharpshooter on September 11, 2006, 20:48:40
You wont get rears n the front. They are 7" and not 6" like the fronts.

You could get some uprated fronts. I got some for taking a winch, and they leveled it out a bit.
Title: 110 suspension
Post by: mudplugger01 on September 11, 2006, 23:02:23
just get the front lifted lol
Title: 110 suspension
Post by: Eeyore on September 11, 2006, 23:35:14
As a quick question, if Land Rover designed the thing to sit slightly higher at the back than the front, they must have done it for a reason. Is there a compelling engineering need to change it, or is the decision being driven by aesthetics?

Personally, I like the poise it gives the wagon, like it's ready to pounce. 8) Kinda purposeful.

Just my tuppence.

.........but if there's a chance to save a few sheckles, well, it's more to spend on fuel, isn't it?  :wink:

cheers
 8)
Eeyore
Title: 110 suspension
Post by: Leigh on September 12, 2006, 09:45:13
Partly aesthetics but mainly the idea is to put larger tyres on which is why I said I was happy with the clearance the back gives me. I wont be carrying the weight it was designed for.

Cheers
Title: 110 suspension
Post by: Eeyore on September 12, 2006, 10:20:35
Fair do's.  :wink:

One thing to remember though is that the back axles moves a lot more than the front under articulation and bigger tyres may be more prone to contact the wheel arch boxes at the back whilst the front will remain clear (i.e. the rear axle requires more clearance than the front).

cheers
 8)
Eeyore
Title: 110 suspension
Post by: Sharpshooter on September 12, 2006, 17:06:50
I have 235 85 16's on mine. I have had them even when my suspention was saggy. They didnt rub then, and deffinately not now. :)
Title: 110 suspension
Post by: muddysteve on September 14, 2006, 21:59:14
Quote from: "what happened was......."
Partly aesthetics but mainly the idea is to put larger tyres on which is why I said I was happy with the clearance the back gives me. I wont be carrying the weight it was designed for.

Cheers


What size tyres are you thinking of running? mines on 33.12.50s on standard HD springs and no clearance issues
Title: 110 suspension
Post by: Leigh on September 16, 2006, 10:34:34
I was thinking of 33's in the new year, so if there are no problems with clearance I'll leave the HD springs on and just go for  longer shocks

Cheers
Title: 110 suspension
Post by: bullfrog on September 16, 2006, 21:20:13
I had 33"s on mine with H/D springs, I later added 2" blocks but more for looks then need. They never rubbed before or after.
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