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Vehicle & Technical => Discovery => Topic started by: Steven on June 29, 2007, 00:36:13

Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: Steven on June 29, 2007, 00:36:13
Hi there,

We re considering in buying a snorkle, not sure which one yet, Safari, Mantec, SouthDown, hmm, not sure. Could you lot show me some pictures of yours please!?  :)

Oh yer anymore makes I havn't mentioned?
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: Skibum346 on June 29, 2007, 01:23:37
How about a B&Q Special...? (http://members.mud-club.com/profiles/Skibum346/gallery/Home_Made_Snorkel)

Skibum
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: cardiff_gareth on June 29, 2007, 08:47:37
Just looking at that link and it suddenly dawned on me, its on the wrong side :!: On the last but one shot you can see it mounted on the drivers side and then a tube going accross the top of the engine to the air intake.
Wouldn't it have been easier to put it on the passengers side :?:
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: electricbluebadger on June 29, 2007, 09:47:47
Quote from: "cardiff_gareth"
Just looking at that link and it suddenly dawned on me, its on the wrong side :!: On the last but one shot you can see it mounted on the drivers side and then a tube going accross the top of the engine to the air intake.
Wouldn't it have been easier to put it on the passengers side :?:



??? Its a V8 carb'd model not an efi, the air intake to the airbox is smack bang centre of the engine bay so surely its exactly the same distance from either side of the car????

One advantage with the drivers side is it doesnt run as much risk of being damaged by hedgerows when driving on normal 2 way roads, certainly round here we have a lot of narrow lanes that can cause probs when you meet the bus coming the other way :)

Cheers Steve
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: cardiff_gareth on June 29, 2007, 10:19:55
Quote from: "electricbluebadger"
??? Its a V8 carb'd model not an efi, the air intake to the airbox is smack bang centre of the engine bay so surely its exactly the same distance from either side of the car????
Cheers Steve


Noticed that after I looked again  :oops:  :oops:

too quick with the fingers and not the eyes  :lol:
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: wing nut on June 29, 2007, 11:09:58
i ordered a safari one for my 300tdi last night from mailorder4x4 ...want it yesterday now :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: barmiebrumie on June 29, 2007, 11:13:40
Quote from: "wing nut"
i ordered a safari one for my 300tdi last night from mailorder4x4 ...want it yesterday now :lol:  :lol:  :lol:



About time too  :wink:  :wink: , now you can go swimming  :lol:
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: Skibum346 on June 29, 2007, 12:24:23
Quote from: "cardiff_gareth"
Quote from: "electricbluebadger"
??? Its a V8 carb'd model not an efi, the air intake to the airbox is smack bang centre of the engine bay so surely its exactly the same distance from either side of the car????
Cheers Steve


Noticed that after I looked again  :oops:  :oops:

too quick with the fingers and not the eyes  :lol:


 :lol:  :lol:

I did look at putting it on the passenger side but there were too many "accoutrements" in the way. On the drivers side it's an all but clear run to the air box. Only obstacle is the oil filler... but a 45 degree bend sorted that and it actually provides some good stability in the engine bay.

Can't recomend this approach enough... given the cost of commercially available options. Afer all... the parts cost me about £20... some forethought and some building time.

Skibum
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: wing nut on June 29, 2007, 13:22:55
Quote from: "barmiebrumie"
Quote from: "wing nut"
i ordered a safari one for my 300tdi last night from mailorder4x4 ...want it yesterday now :lol:  :lol:  :lol:



About time too  :wink:  :wink: , now you can go swimming  :lol:


oooooooooooohhhhhhhh    yeeeesssss  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: wizard on June 29, 2007, 13:31:18
Here a safari one on my 200 Tdi
The wiring for the spots, and the breather pipe all run up inside the snorkel and exit at the top.

(http://members.mud-club.com/galleryimages/626ff759d84ae085e672a1dcb6e75391.jpg)


wizard :twisted:
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: Steven on June 29, 2007, 14:02:54
I think the safaris are the smartist out them all, what about a mantec one, really quite undistated, any pictures guys?
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: lee celtic on June 29, 2007, 19:48:50
I like the look of the safari one but I have seen them damaged going through narrow gates as the snorkle hits before the wing mirror. I fancy having a go at making a home made one to save money but running it through the wing up to the windscreen like the camel one by mantek but without the ugly top I'll stick with the cooper top. :wink:
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: Steven on June 29, 2007, 20:08:40
Mantec ones are simple, something which we would like actually as it is the main vehicle at the end of the day.
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: wizard on June 29, 2007, 20:27:20
Quote
I like the look of the safari one but I have seen them damaged going through narrow gates as the snorkle hits before the wing mirror


I can vouch for the strenght of the Safari ones.
I put a nice dent in the side of the Disco a while back but the snorkle only has a scratch on it.

wizard :twisted:
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: andyb on June 29, 2007, 23:33:13
I've got a Mantec 'top bit' that I got for £25 and the rest inside the wing to the airbox is B&Q drain pipe bits and glued and siliconed together.

I cut the hole in the wing for the snorkel top by trial and error and (if I say so myself) a pretty good fit.

PM me if you want to see some picture of the installation.

HTH
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: shaun and co on June 29, 2007, 23:45:23
got to say safaris are solid- i slid my truck about twenty foot down a hill sideways and the snorkel was the first point of impact with the tree that stopped me! unfortunately i then slid round the tree and lost a wingmirror and put a nice big scar down the side of the truck. oh well but the snorkel is fine!!!
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: Steven on June 30, 2007, 00:56:37
I like the idea of the home mdae one, something which I will go through and do on my series or what ever but for the disco it has to be an all complete one iif you know what I mean.
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: Jake on June 30, 2007, 12:16:00
Mantec
(http://www.mantec.co.uk/user/images/shop/main/103_med.jpg)
Southdown
(http://www.southdown4x4.co.uk/grafix/DRAITFth.jpg)
Safari
(http://arb.com.au/Graphics/Safari_Snorkels/safari%20pic-1.jpg)
 8)
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: thermidorthelobster on June 30, 2007, 15:31:29
There is an argument that at least with the plastic Safari ones, the snorkel's likely to give before major damage is done to the rest of the truck.  That said, they seem pretty tough.  And they are very neat.  I've had 2.
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: narked on June 30, 2007, 17:44:22
My 300 TDI with Safari Snorkel, posing 5 minutes ago just outside the house.

(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1133/672446717_edad1e70de.jpg)
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: Lyndsey731 on July 01, 2007, 09:26:36
I went for the Southdown, I prefer the way it disappears straight into the wing.

Gav
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: Steven on July 01, 2007, 10:39:27
How easy are snorkels to fit. How did you lot find them when doing them? Got any quides you have in your gallerys ?  :D  (Would like to know about safari, mantec and south down please)
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: Jake on July 01, 2007, 11:40:23
I've fitted 2 Safari's now
The instructions in the box are very clear and easy to follow
My only tip for the job is take your time.
Dont expect to have it fitted in an hour
I took 3 hours to do the first one on my V8, rushing it.
When i did the one on my Tdi i took 7 hours at a slow pace
Mainly because i wanted it to be much neater and 100% water tight.
I brought 2 hole cutters for for my 300 Tdi fit
1 large one for the wing and inner wing and a smaller one for the air box hole (sizes were printed in the instructions)
(http://members.mud-club.com/galleryimages/b431c66fea9ac9f409ab86b305b6cf01.jpg)
You have to move the air box inwards to accomadate the new pipe work on a 300 (all parts supplied and easy to do)
(http://members.mud-club.com/galleryimages/722ce7f9fcecea479b7197e560359976.jpg)
You can see from this picture that the air intake is now on the side instead of the front, which has a blanking plate fitted (supplied)
(http://members.mud-club.com/galleryimages/2cd730a9d24c436598d7367be08e9505.jpg)
The Safari also comes with a template for the wing cut and hole placement.
I found it to be a simple job, just take your time and do it right  :wink:
 8)
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: Steven on July 01, 2007, 13:13:33
Thanks for that jake, seems simple then! I think we'll go with the safari because of the looks  8) and also sounds easy to fit. And I'm pretty sure the safari is the cheapest (right?).
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: Steve ray on July 01, 2007, 14:39:56
Got to say I come out on the side of the Safari's - look good, high impact resistance and to be fair; the passenger side door mirror is a good "early warning device" if you are about to clout the left-hand wing on the scenery. :twisted:

Take your time, follow the instructions and it'll look well smart.

PS - make sure you get the right one, because they are slightly different depending on if your vehicle has air con or not.
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: Jake on July 01, 2007, 15:38:40
Quote from: "91Steven"
And I'm pretty sure the safari is the cheapest (right?).

Depends on where you shop.
The Safari is very easy to fit compared to the other brands, mainly because you dont have to remove the wing to fit it.
Steve Ray is spot on...
Make sure you state your vehicle type, engine type and whether you have ABS or not.
The ABS difference is lenght of the snorkle along the wing.
ABS is a long wing snorkle, no ABS is shorter.
 :D
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: Steven on July 01, 2007, 16:27:32
Quote from: "Jake"
Quote from: "91Steven"
And I'm pretty sure the safari is the cheapest (right?).

Depends on where you shop.
The Safari is very easy to fit compared to the other brands, mainly because you dont have to remove the wing to fit it.
Steve Ray is spot on...
Make sure you state your vehicle type, engine type and whether you have ABS or not.
The ABS difference is lenght of the snorkle along the wing.
ABS is a long wing snorkle, no ABS is shorter.
 :D


Ok then, thanks so much for your help everyone!!!

Safari it is then!
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: muddyjames on July 01, 2007, 19:32:00
I have a safari one and I think it looks the smartest out of all the makes. The others I dont think suits the disco. The mantec one for example I think looks better on a defender where the safari one doesnt look good on a defender.

My raised air intakes for the axles etc all run up the side of the snorkel and then go into the snorkel top under the jubilee clip. You cant even see they are there.

I have been through water up to half way up the windscreen and the air box was still dry as a bone.
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: simondarby on July 01, 2007, 22:11:33
I ran my breathers into the air box.  Didn't see the point of running them any higher up the snorkel, as no water will get in the air box anyway...

If it does, you're knackered anyway...
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: Lyndsey731 on July 02, 2007, 12:43:56
Simondarby, I was going to do exactly the same, stick them all into the airbox, but when i spoke to a mechanic mate of mine he advised against it, he thought it could cause problems with pressure differences i.e. the pull of the air being sucked into the engine could cause a siphon effect on the axles! I take it you have had no problems with this and i wasted my time running it up the snorkel.

Gav
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: simondarby on July 02, 2007, 13:17:53
Had no problems so far Gav.  We did think about the pressure for a while and ended up thinking that the pressure was probably not enough to worry about.  Besides, the tubing I used was translucent white so I can keep an eye on it anyway.

Ends up being a very neat and tidy arrangement too.  Used proper pneumatic push fit connectors into the rear of the air box.  Looks like it's supposed to be like that.
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: Evilgoat on July 02, 2007, 13:34:18
Had thought about dooing that with the breathers on the zook too. Intake for the little comressor for the dizzy and headlamp vets is taken from the botton of the snorkel, doesnt matter so much about pressure there as theres a compressor in the way.

Safari snorkels are certainly tougher than Zook bodywork, ours has had a fair bit of punishment, seen a few grilles in the top smashed on others though. The Zooks also seems to accumulate water at the elbow at time too, easilly solve with a little drain plug.
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: Blakey on July 08, 2007, 14:25:09
Quote from: "Jake"
Quote from: "91Steven"
And I'm pretty sure the safari is the cheapest (right?).

Depends on where you shop.
The Safari is very easy to fit compared to the other brands, mainly because you dont have to remove the wing to fit it.
Steve Ray is spot on...
Make sure you state your vehicle type, engine type and whether you have ABS or not.
The ABS difference is lenght of the snorkle along the wing.
ABS is a long wing snorkle, no ABS is shorter.
 :D


My disco has no ABS but the air box looks to be in the same place as a disco with ABS and i dont know which safari snorkel to get! :?
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: Jake on July 08, 2007, 16:09:04
Quote from: "Blakey"
My disco has no ABS but the air box looks to be in the same place as a disco with ABS and i dont know which safari snorkel to get! :?

The Disco's with Abs enter nearer the front of the car and enter from the side of the air box.
The Cars without enter nearer the front door and enter the air box at the rear (where the abs would be if it was fitted)
Just advise the shop you are buying from of your car details (and chassis number if you like)
They will know which to send/sell you
 :D
Title: Mantec much prettier
Post by: Ralph Hardwick on July 17, 2007, 17:28:46
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and personaly I think the safari ones spoil the look of the car.

I prefer the subtle look of the mantec one which retains more of the original looks and looks like a camel trophy.

Fitting is straight forward once you take the outer wing off, which is no big hardship.  the templates supplied look a bit basic but do the job.

I have fitted a 'mushroom' top from matt savage to get a G4 appearance.

I fitted A 200Tdi model to my 300 in order to move the intake further back allowing me to use the secondary battery position in front of the air box.  I also fitted a 200 Tdi air box but I intend to go back to a modified 300 box when I get round2it.
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: cardiff_gareth on July 17, 2007, 18:30:08
Can you fit a 200tdi snorkel onto a 300tdi then, what mods are required :?:
I'm currently watching an Airflow snorkel that looks the same as a Safari snorkel on Ebay. I wanted a new snorkel but can't afford it now so if I can get this then great :P
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: redhand on July 17, 2007, 18:43:03
Quote from: "cardiff_gareth"
Can you fit a 200tdi snorkel onto a 300tdi then, what mods are required :?:
I'm currently watching an Airflow snorkel that looks the same as a Safari snorkel on Ebay. I wanted a new snorkel but can't afford it now so if I can get this then great :P


Yes but you also need the 200tdi airbox. it sits further back than a 300airbox and the air intake goes out of the side into the innerwing. With a 200tdi there is space for a second battery exactly where the current one sits but on the lefthand side.
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: Littledan on July 19, 2007, 14:32:51
i got to say i like the southdown one :)
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: seabo on July 19, 2007, 18:11:50
I have a Safari snorkel for a 300TDi but the car I bought it for is dead and I now have a 3.9V8 on gas.

Any tips on converting the "under bonnet bits" to fit the airbox.  

On this one it is at the front passenger side not in the rear middel as seems to be the case on Skibums earlier photos - I presume this is a 3.5?
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: wing nut on July 19, 2007, 18:49:12
http://wetroads.pajuk.co.uk/index.php?topic=65.0

i took a few of mine being fitted :wink:
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: Oz on July 19, 2007, 19:55:04
cant get on that link mate
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: wing nut on July 19, 2007, 22:56:36
will post the pics when i get 5 then :lol:  :wink:
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: wing nut on July 20, 2007, 08:56:55
it might help someone so i thought id post it
(http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m16/wing-nut_2006/DSCF2506.jpg)

firstly make sure you have the right tools ,listed in the fitting instructions ,drill, spanners,file,screwdriver,and lots and lots of sillicon sealer  

(http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m16/wing-nut_2006/DSCF2511.jpg)

always check you have all the bits supplied before fitting

(http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m16/wing-nut_2006/DSCF2499.jpg)


remove airbox ,blank off air hole with plug supplied ,use sillicone,grind ribs off the side with  a grinder

mark and bolt new vent to airbox
mark around new vent and cut holes for intake pipe

(http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m16/wing-nut_2006/DSCF2501.jpg)

bolt intake to airbox using sealer,nuts and bolts
find a clean wing (yea right ) to stick the template to ,and using a suitable marker draw along the outlines

(http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m16/wing-nut_2006/DSCF2510.jpg)

drill and cut using hascksaw whenever possible ,tidy edges with a file

(http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m16/wing-nut_2006/DSCF2519.jpg)

make a sutable hole in flitch and using rubber strip put along edge
put snorkle in place ,tighten the 5 nuts and secure to door piller ,the mounting plate is angled ,with 3 bolts and 5 pop rivets
(http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m16/wing-nut_2006/DSCF2517.jpg)



once thats done you can install the airbox ,make sure all is sealed well ,the snorkle comes supplied with jubille clips and a rubber tube seal

(http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m16/wing-nut_2006/DSCF2518.jpg)

and after all that the end product
(http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m16/wing-nut_2006/DSCF2521.jpg)

thanks to solihull mick for technical advice and his modelling qualities ,yes him in pics lol
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: cardiff_gareth on September 21, 2007, 12:39:35
sorry to reserect his thread from the grave but I have sold my fishing gear and now have some money to get a snorkel. I'm trying to keep it on the cheap as I have many repairs to do but I'm not looking to do the DIY version, looks too complicated for me LOL !
I've seen on ebay that southdown sell the bits seperatley and they can do me a complete seconds snorkel for £130 I think it was. The only snag that I wanted to know is with the head , does it push water out like the safari or does it enter and go down.

Here is the head here:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110169064728&sspagename=ADME:X:AAQ:UK:11

I've also been shopping about and the cheapest place for a Safari is Paddocks at £169 delivered. Does anyone know anywhere cheaper or is that about the best you can expect to pay for one :?:
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: Steven on September 21, 2007, 12:48:56
Quote
Safari is Paddocks at £169 delivered

Is that with VAT?
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: L90OOK on September 21, 2007, 12:58:31
There's this:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LANDROVER-DISCO-SAFARI-SNORKEL-200-TDI_W0QQitemZ130154109219QQihZ003QQcategoryZ31348QQcmdZViewItem
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: auf_wiedersehen_pet on September 21, 2007, 13:56:31
Here's mine........

http://members.mud-club.com/profiles/auf_wiedersehen_pet/gallery/uiopiuyt

Took a lot longer than the suggested 2 hours though!
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: cardiff_gareth on September 21, 2007, 13:59:18
Quote from: "91Steven"
Quote
Safari is Paddocks at £169 delivered

Is that with VAT?


i went through to the checkout after saying 'economical delivery' etc and thats what it gave me, its £144 ex vat
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: cardiff_gareth on September 21, 2007, 13:59:51
Quote from: "L90OOK"
There's this:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LANDROVER-DISCO-SAFARI-SNORKEL-200-TDI_W0QQitemZ130154109219QQihZ003QQcategoryZ31348QQcmdZViewItem


watching it already, great minds think alike eh :wink:   :lol:  :lol:
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: cardiff_gareth on September 21, 2007, 14:01:39
Quote from: "auf_wiedersehen_pet"
Here's mine........

http://members.mud-club.com/profiles/auf_wiedersehen_pet/gallery/uiopiuyt

Took a lot longer than the suggested 2 hours though!


yours is in Rioja red, cut front bumper and with freestyles - same as mine so I can see what mine will 'look like' when its done then  8)  8)

Rioja Red - the only real colour for a Disco - JOKE before I get bombarded  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: Iain C on September 21, 2007, 14:12:42
Very spooky...I have literally just ordered a Southdown for £130 all in, I'll be fitting it next week so I'll let you know how it goes. IMHO it's the best looking...the polished stainless finish is a bit bling so Dave at Southdown is going to satin finish mine...so hopefully it should kinda match the alloys on my truck.  WRT to water ingress, apparently most of the water is atomised, and if it's a monsoon you can turn the ram air bit round.

I'll take some pix during fitting and post them in my gallery.
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: Steven on September 21, 2007, 14:23:39
Quote
I have literally just ordered a Southdown for £130 all in

How?
No see that price on there site even with this months special offer the discos only 165  :?
Or have I missed something?
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: Wattle on September 21, 2007, 14:26:24
Quote from: "cardiff_gareth"
Quote from: "L90OOK"
There's this:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LANDROVER-DISCO-SAFARI-SNORKEL-200-TDI_W0QQitemZ130154109219QQihZ003QQcategoryZ31348QQcmdZViewItem


watching it already, great minds think alike eh :wink:   :lol:  :lol:



Oi now don't go out bidding me on it. :(

Phil
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: Iain C on September 21, 2007, 14:34:32
Ring them...some of the plastic parts are slight seconds but are fine for my '95 Disco!
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: auf_wiedersehen_pet on September 21, 2007, 14:47:54
Quote from: "cardiff_gareth"
Quote from: "auf_wiedersehen_pet"
Here's mine........

http://members.mud-club.com/profiles/auf_wiedersehen_pet/gallery/uiopiuyt

Took a lot longer than the suggested 2 hours though!


yours is in Rioja red, cut front bumper and with freestyles - same as mine so I can see what mine will 'look like' when its done then  8)  8)

Rioja Red - the only real colour for a Disco - JOKE before I get bombarded  :lol:  :lol:


Cheeky beggar!!

My first choice would be Epsom Green but could not turn down Rioja Red with just 48k!!
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: cardiff_gareth on September 21, 2007, 15:23:44
Quote from: "Wattle"

Oi now don't go out bidding me on it. :(

Phil


They don't come up on Ebay that often so its hard not to tread on other members feet, whats your Ebay name, if your the highest bidder then i'll leave it alone, if you get out bid then I might jump in, is that fair  :?:  :lol:
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: cardiff_gareth on September 21, 2007, 15:25:21
Quote from: "auf_wiedersehen_pet"


Rioja Red - the only real colour for a Disco - JOKE before I get bombarded  :lol:  :lol:


Cheeky beggar!!

My first choice would be Epsom Green but could not turn down Rioja Red with just 48k!![/quote]

I knew it would get a raise  :lol:

 :shock:  Spooky thing now, my first Disco was Epson Green and now this is Rioja Red, Snap or what, I'm feeling freeked out  8-[
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: Wattle on September 21, 2007, 15:52:47
Quote from: "cardiff_gareth"
Quote from: "Wattle"

Oi now don't go out bidding me on it. :(

Phil


They don't come up on Ebay that often so its hard not to tread on other members feet, whats your Ebay name, if your the highest bidder then i'll leave it alone, if you get out bid then I might jump in, is that fair  :?:  :lol:


Hi,  I am the highest bidder at the moment, don't worry bid away :lol:

Good Luck

Phil
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: Digsit on September 21, 2007, 16:21:04
I'm a bit late to the thread Steven but these might help when you come to fit the snorkel:

My old 200tdi:

http://members.mud-club.com/profiles/Digsit/gallery/Snorkel/0

Pauls old 300tdi:

http://members.mud-club.com/profiles/Paul/gallery/Snorkel
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: auf_wiedersehen_pet on September 21, 2007, 18:29:12
Cardiff Gareth - This is my second Disco - my first was (you guessed it) Epsom Green.
 :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: Cassillis on September 22, 2007, 12:21:42
Quote from: "91Steven"
Quote
I have literally just ordered a Southdown for £130 all in

How?
No see that price on there site even with this months special offer the discos only 165  :?
Or have I missed something?


Right guys. After reading this thread i was intrigued at the prices being bandied about. I took Iain C's advice and tried to ring Southdown to confirm the price. Not open Saturday morning. Damn!!!

Twenty minutes later the very nice man from southdown products phones me back after doing a 1471 check. He was passing the office and saw there had been a couple of missed calls.

Suffice to say i am now the owner of a very smart looking Southdown Raised air intake with a satin finish on the pipe. Due to arrive mid to end of next week. All for £130 including delivery. Now that i think is a fantastic price.

Mr Southdown would like me to spread the word for him and i have to say, after the service i have just received i am more than happy to do so.

Well done Southdown 4X4
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: Disco_Stu on September 22, 2007, 20:31:28
Sorry guys, you're all wrong.

JAVA BLACK is the only color for a disco. Obviously.

http://forum.difflock.com/viewtopic.php?t=1906&highlight=
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: Iain C on September 22, 2007, 21:42:28
Nice one Graeme!

I also thought the service was excellent so far...although perhaps I need to be on commission then!

Right then, last one to get their Southdown on buys the beers...actually in fact, you go first, take lots of pictures, tell me how it went and I'll by the beers! :D
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: Cassillis on September 23, 2007, 10:36:35
Quote from: "Iain C"
Nice one Graeme!

I also thought the service was excellent so far...although perhaps I need to be on commission then!

Right then, last one to get their Southdown on buys the beers...actually in fact, you go first, take lots of pictures, tell me how it went and I'll by the beers! :D


Your on.  :lol: Pictures to follow.
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: auf_wiedersehen_pet on September 23, 2007, 11:56:35
Quote from: "Disco_Stu"
Sorry guys, you're all wrong.

JAVA BLACK is the only color for a disco. Obviously.


What colour were the first Land Rovers - yes green!! Admittedly not metallic Epsom Green.
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: pux on September 23, 2007, 12:41:58
heres the one that was made for mine when thumbs owned it :wink:  it is a 90 snorkel that has home made pipes made up for it under the bonnet and i must say its a very neat job :wink:
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d43/karting4/Essex%20Rochford%2013%20May%2007/a22.jpg)[/img]
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: cardiff_gareth on September 23, 2007, 20:22:28
Quote from: "auf_wiedersehen_pet"
Quote from: "Disco_Stu"
Sorry guys, you're all wrong.

JAVA BLACK is the only color for a disco. Obviously.


What colour were the first Land Rovers - yes green!! Admittedly not metallic Epsom Green.


i've started something now haven't eye :lol:

all land rovers look good in all colours cause they're land rovers !!
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: cardiff_gareth on September 23, 2007, 20:25:20
I'm 99% certain i'll be getting the southdown one as well, here is the reply I had from them when I asked about the head:

Quote
Dear Gareth
 
Thank you for your email, Yes we are still doing the deal at £130.00. For a complete air intake.
 
With regard to the ram scoop, it has no holes to releive rain water as this is a bit of a grey area.
Any rain water that enters the ram scoop will vaporise and burn through the engine with no problems what so ever., but dont forget the top on our air intake is rotatable.  With regard to the Safari set up, if the veocity of the air being sucked into the engine is greater than the velocity of the rain hitting the ram scoop (which in most instances will be the case), the rain will be sucked into the airfilter assembly and atomised as with our system.
 
In order for it to come out of the slots in the Safari top again it would have to enter with sufficient speed to hit the back of the scoop.  Rarely the case considering the aerodynamics of any intake system.


The only thing that snags now is 'will my light bar fit' as it looks like, on they're web page, the head is right in the way of the light bar :?:
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: morfis on September 24, 2007, 12:26:41
Quote from: "wizard"
Here a safari one on my 200 Tdi
The wiring for the spots, and the breather pipe all run up inside the snorkel and exit at the top.

(http://members.mud-club.com/galleryimages/626ff759d84ae085e672a1dcb6e75391.jpg)


wizard :twisted:


Is the wiring to the bar fixed or removable? If removable can you post a pic of how you connected it at the top of the snorkel please as this is the route I want to take?
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: Lyndsey731 on September 24, 2007, 14:52:45
£130.00 :shock:  :shock: great price from southdown, I bought mine from them 2 years ago, cost me £200.00  :cry: Best looking type in my opinion.

Gav
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: cardiff_gareth on September 24, 2007, 15:34:24
Gavin,
Does it interfere with your light bar / did you have to mod it / or did it go on no problems ?
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: Lyndsey731 on September 24, 2007, 16:13:51
Hi Gareth

It went straight on no problems at all, hours work. You can't really see from the picture but it tucks in quite neatly under the bar. If it happens to be too long the scoop comes off so you can cut the tube down. I would recomend a couple of discreet self tappers to stop the scoop being pulled off.

Gav
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: cardiff_gareth on September 24, 2007, 21:26:29
just ordered my southdown snorkel......the race is on :shock:
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: lee celtic on September 26, 2007, 00:37:24
Took the plunge  :shock:

just bought a cooper top off eblag and I have contacted a steel dude we use at work he's sorting the tube and I will pop to the scraper on sat to get a bit of the rubber stuff to connect it all .

If it all goes to plan it should cost no more than £40 :wink: even got a free 2 1/2" cardboard tude to make a mock up for the bender 8)
I will post pics later as I do it. :D

Wish me luck  :(scared):
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: cardiff_gareth on September 26, 2007, 08:46:34
Go for it Lee and get the pics on ASAP !!
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: lee celtic on September 26, 2007, 20:42:12
Top arrived day (island 4x4) very quick delivery 8)

meeting steel dude tomorrow  :D
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: andrew2986 on September 27, 2007, 10:02:42
Hi guys, was going to buy a safari, but am now waiting to see how these  turn out! hurry up guys!!!!! need to see some photos :D  :D  :D  :D  :D

Andy
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: Iain C on September 29, 2007, 09:49:33
OK my Southdown arrived yesterday so I'm going for it today.

Taje care though guys...the template has a "scaling line" which should come out at 250mm, mine is 264mm, so it will need reducing on the PC before I chop anything otherwise the hole will be wrong!

I'll ring Southdwn first just to make sure 100%...

***Edited...whoo hoo I win, all installed, looks the business.  Pictures and fitting experiences to follow!***
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: lee celtic on September 29, 2007, 16:34:05
well I have the steel tube and I had the top of the tube stretched so the top fits inside to give a slightly bigger diameter unfortunatly they could not bend it cleanly so I am going to cut and shut the angles .Piccies are piling up but I will put them all on together.
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: cardiff_gareth on September 29, 2007, 16:49:33
mine turned up yesterday but it says on the instructions you need to chop 15mm off the end  :?
I'll wait for the 'how to fit' pic's before i chop mine  :lol:

Looks a good bit of kit on initial inspection  :wink:
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: Skibum346 on September 29, 2007, 19:31:37
Quote from: "Iain C"
OK my Southdown arrived yesterday so I'm going for it today.

Taje care though guys...the template has a "scaling line" which should come out at 250mm, mine is 264mm, so it will need reducing on the PC before I chop anything otherwise the hole will be wrong!

I'll ring Southdwn first just to make sure 100%...

***Edited...whoo hoo I win, all installed, looks the business.  Pictures and fitting experiences to follow!***


Congrats Ian... now all shee needs is a light bar and some obtrusive vinyls!!   :lol:
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: Iain C on September 29, 2007, 19:59:13
Edited now I've worked the formatting out...page down!
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: Iain C on September 29, 2007, 20:08:43
ignore...
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: Steven on September 29, 2007, 20:15:57
Nice one good job that is.  8)
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: Cassillis on September 30, 2007, 11:52:52
Nicely done Iain............ Mines still in the box. SWMBO's not well so i've been playing dad.
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: cardiff_gareth on September 30, 2007, 19:06:08
Quote from: "Iain C"
Oh, well that totally didn't work then did it.  The post I mean, not the snorkel.  I thought I could link to images in my gallery, perhaps not!  Pix are in my gallery, help yourself!


Iain,
Did you cut the pipe down as it says to do :?:
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: TimM on September 30, 2007, 20:18:02
Steven, if your free on Wednesday night, it will be our pub meet, where there are a variety of snorkels that will turn up, and all the owners would love to show you them off to you (if that is of any use).
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: Iain C on September 30, 2007, 21:40:54
Quote from: "cardiff_gareth"
Quote from: "Iain C"
Oh, well that totally didn't work then did it.  The post I mean, not the snorkel.  I thought I could link to images in my gallery, perhaps not!  Pix are in my gallery, help yourself!


Iain,
Did you cut the pipe down as it says to do :?:


Er, no...it was not mentioned in my instructions...a bit odd as I am also a 300Tdi... :roll:
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: discoverytdi on September 30, 2007, 22:40:14
Like the look of the snorkel but it bothers me that you are adding another place for water to get in. (I mean even your masking tape was showing signs of rust)Not that Land Rovers are prone to the dreaded rust though  :D
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: Iain C on September 30, 2007, 22:41:55
Another place for water to get in?  Don't get what you mean here...do you mean something to do with the hole in the wing as that's the only difference?
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: discoverytdi on September 30, 2007, 22:46:02
Yes the hole in the wing or did you flood it with mastic
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: Wolfie on September 30, 2007, 22:53:02
Quote from: "Iain C"
Oh, well that totally didn't work then did it.  The post I mean, not the snorkel.  I thought I could link to images in my gallery, perhaps not!  Pix are in my gallery, help yourself!


For future reference, you need to use the URL of the image irtself, not the url of the gallery page.

In other words. right click on the image and choose properties (internet explorer, othe browsers will be similar) and then copy the url.

eg on the page
Code: [Select]
http://members.mud-club.com/profiles/Iain%20C/gallery/SouthdownSnorkel/1/8c59fbfc1b4e553628718af4b4410eb1.JPG the image url is
Code: [Select]
http://members.mud-club.com/galleryimages/8c59fbfc1b4e553628718af4b4410eb1.JPG

which will give
 (http://members.mud-club.com/galleryimages/8c59fbfc1b4e553628718af4b4410eb1.JPG)
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: Iain C on September 30, 2007, 22:54:54
It's just the alloy outer wing skin you cut the hole in, it does not make a blind bit of difference...it gets wet behind there every time you drive in the rain!
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: Digsit on October 02, 2007, 12:06:48
Saw Iains Southdown in the flesh on Sunday.   Nice bit if kit I reckon and when the time comes I'm leaning towards one of these rather than a Safari.  Looks much less of a ball ache to fit and I LIKE IT  8)

Oh and NPW gave it the seal of approval too  :wink:
Title: travis perkins **Branded** snorkel work in progress!!
Post by: Chris Putt on October 02, 2007, 19:44:06
Having all of the front bodywork off the disco means that the 'Travis Perkins Ultimate power drainpipe snorkel kit'[/b] is going to be going on.....[/i]
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: Iain C on October 03, 2007, 15:34:48
OK then, pictorial guide.  Ignore the 250mm scaling line, Dave said it didn't matter (although I'd already dowscaled it on the PC and fitted it!#-o )



(http://members.mud-club.com/galleryimages/a9ba42928cbe2d91c502268d2778a3de.JPG)
Cover the wing in masking tape, cut out the template, stick it on the truck... :?

(http://members.mud-club.com/galleryimages/62c1db165fbf7fce28a9a9a54a312a6f.JPG)
...and draw round the hole guide leaving your masking tape with a good visible line.  Take the template off leaving just the tape which stops the drill wandering when you start drilling... [-X


(http://members.mud-club.com/galleryimages/ff49c6a3e6d927c914f72fc5d6afc7f6.JPG)
Drill round the pen mark, allowing a bit of distance for the drill diameter...the pen guide marks the edge remember! :!:

(http://members.mud-club.com/galleryimages/1494a0c1385cd68dc3c2a898f1d64f7d.JPG)
Giving your drill some abuse (if it's old like mine!) "mill" out the remaining
ally...it goes very quickly if you have drilled enough holes!

(http://members.mud-club.com/galleryimages/c3f26bf597babb8a58b3b034d1d5b1c3.JPG)
Carefully file the high spots, draw filing the file sideways around the hole is less noisy and harsh and gives a better result! \:D/

(http://members.mud-club.com/galleryimages/6bf7dc189c6cf05e8c007cfa284f7959.JPG)
Sikaflex/Jubilee the hose onto the bottom of the pipe, and drill the A pillar and loosely bolt the stainless tube into place... :-k

(http://members.mud-club.com/galleryimages/7e2046eb6626798388cf8b4f1126da3a.JPG)
...and with the help of an assistant drop it gently into position with more sikaflex on the wing join, whils passing the hose inside the wing and pulling it through the forward inner wing hole with an old coat hanger whilst ignoring gaping rust hole in inner wings...  :oops:

(http://members.mud-club.com/galleryimages/9e67ce1d36dd5970d2dcdd287c25b8f6.JPG)
Using loads of sikaflex bond pipe into the airbox.  Make sure it's pulled through 10mm or so and get loads of sikaflex inside the join... :-k    

(http://members.mud-club.com/galleryimages/762325e2fe2bcbe676a23f5b5ddcbb47.JPG)
Also dont forget to sikaflex all the holes in the bottom of the airbox too!  I took mine out and cleaned it first to get a good seal.  :wink:

(http://members.mud-club.com/galleryimages/7db2707d6fd4619d9473df569b7c76ef.JPG)
Finally, when the sikaflex was nearly dry, I added some B&Q self amalgamting silicone tape for good measure.  :idea:  

(http://members.mud-club.com/galleryimages/807862f8c8b149d6bdd58f711155bd32.JPG)
Snorkel looks the nuts! \:D/
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: cardiff_gareth on October 03, 2007, 16:29:50
Iain,
In the pic that shows the hole in the wing, there is a square hole on the inner. Did you have to cut this as well and also is that circle in the front of the inner wing where the tube feeds into the engine bay there already or not :?:

Does it have to come into the engine bay there as eventually I would like to get a split charge system and this is where the second battery will go, unless it can be placed elsewhere  :?:  :?:
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: Iain C on October 03, 2007, 16:38:00
Square hole...no...the pipe just goes forward between the inner and outer wings.

The round hole it then comes through is already there, in short you only need to cut the one hole in the alloy outer wing, 20 minutes, easy peasy.

I think it would be fairly easy to find enough room to fit both aibox and battery in the same place, using either an elbow into the current airbox inlet, or perhaps blanking it off and leading it in through another route.

And if anyone from Southdown is reading this, you owe me!!!! :D
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: Lyndsey731 on October 03, 2007, 16:46:02
Gareth

Both myself and discocwk have a second battery as you mention and both of us used the airbox off a 200tdi mounted higher up, I'm sure he has pictures in his gallery.

Gav
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: lee celtic on October 05, 2007, 17:32:46
Well the snorkel is fitted :shock:
Only as a dry run..
It needs taking off again to be fettled and powder coated but I have put some of the photos in my gallery for you to take a look .

It looks a bit high but it will look better when the roof rack goes on as the lights will be higher than the light bar is now. 8)
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: Cassillis on October 05, 2007, 20:19:33
Did mine today as well :D
No need to put pictures up of the build as Iain C had done such a good job.
Mine's a 200Tdi so fitting to the airbox was easier. Pop out the old plastic air scoop from the inner wing, fit the adaptor supplied to the airbox, jubilee clip and silicone. Job done!

Sunday i shall be going out to test it. :twisted:

Oh just by way of a reminder, whilst working on mine i noticed the drain on the airbox was gaping as it was old. It's the rubber 'V' shaped thing at the bottom front end. Either replace it or seal it up somehow. If you do the latter check the airbox and filter periodically.

I know from bitter experience what leaving this drain open does to Land Rover engines  :cry:
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: Jake on October 05, 2007, 21:04:37
I do like the Southdown snorkel
My next off roader will have one fitted to it  :wink:
 :D
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: andrew2986 on October 05, 2007, 21:24:49
been following this thread, will be ordering  a satin finish southdown on monday
 :D
Andy
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: lee celtic on October 07, 2007, 22:18:43
well here we are all finished and if I say so my self it looks cool 8)

Grand total £46 not bad for a steel snorkle  :D hardest bit I think is getting the nerve to cut the wing but once you start theres no going back.

Here are some piccies and I will put the rest in my gallery later :D

If your thinking of doing a home made snorkel I'd say go for it save some cash and have a one off bit of kit  :wink:
Title: Discovery 1 snorkles
Post by: stuntman on October 08, 2007, 09:19:16
I'm with you lee, I've done it! Now just a wading kit to sort out  :twisted:
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