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« Reply #90 on: June 22, 2005, 22:04:44 »
are the sockets that the halfshafts connect into worn/play etc???
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« Reply #91 on: June 22, 2005, 22:08:00 »
What about some more pictures of the diff and halfshaft ends?

Try setting things up on the bench as they would be on the vehicle and operate it as you would on the car.
Then try get someone to hold the halfshaft with some grips and see if turning the drive flange can over ride it.

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« Reply #92 on: June 22, 2005, 22:08:08 »
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are the sockets that the halfshafts connect into worn/play etc???


i say that as the halfshaft looks worn
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« Reply #93 on: June 22, 2005, 22:13:51 »
Sorry Gords. I missed the bit about photos in the gallery.
I wondered where Chugga saw the worn halfshafts.

Is there any debris in bottom of the axle casing.

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« Reply #94 on: June 22, 2005, 22:18:49 »
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are the sockets that the halfshafts connect into worn/play etc???


i say that as the halfshaft looks worn

It's hard to tell, they seem to slot in quite nicely and don't slop when turning. I think there is up/down movement, but I'm not sure what's moving. Surely, they would have to be completely shagged to stop the car moving completely?!

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What about some more pictures of the diff and halfshaft ends?

Try setting things up on the bench as they would be on the vehicle and operate it as you would on the car.
Then try get someone to hold the halfshaft with some grips and see if turning the drive flange can over ride it.

I've taken a few more pictures - one shows the splines for the half shafts reasonably well.

I did try putting the half shafts in place and tried turning various ends in various directions. It seemed fine, but I don't have a bench or a spare pair of hands do it was a bit difficult to test it properly :(

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« Reply #95 on: June 22, 2005, 22:20:51 »
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Is there any debris in bottom of the axle casing.

I forgot to check until I'd washed my hands yet again! I'll check tomorrow, although there's certainly nothing big as I did have a quick delve after removing the diff.

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« Reply #96 on: June 22, 2005, 22:28:00 »
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are the sockets that the halfshafts connect into worn/play etc???


i say that as the halfshaft looks worn

It's hard to tell, they seem to slot in quite nicely and don't slop when turning. I think there is up/down movement, but I'm not sure what's moving. Surely, they would have to be completely shagged to stop the car moving completely?!

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What about some more pictures of the diff and halfshaft ends?

Try setting things up on the bench as they would be on the vehicle and operate it as you would on the car.
Then try get someone to hold the halfshaft with some grips and see if turning the drive flange can over ride it.

I've taken a few more pictures - one shows the splines for the half shafts reasonably well.

I did try putting the half shafts in place and tried turning various ends in various directions. It seemed fine, but I don't have a bench or a spare pair of hands do it was a bit difficult to test it properly :(


looking at the picture of your halfshaft and the 5th picture along(the one that shows the sockets)

id say that is where your problem lies

look how flat the recieving splines are

corresponds with the halfshaft

it is possible that you could not turn this by hand

remember how much horse power there is in your enginge compared to your hands

and dont forget the weight of the disco
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« Reply #97 on: June 22, 2005, 22:31:14 »
oo yes , does appear worn dont it.  well spotted
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« Reply #98 on: June 22, 2005, 22:31:46 »
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looking at the picture of your halfshaft and the 5th picture along(the one that shows the sockets)

id say that is where your problem lies

look how flat the recieving splines are

So, new half shafts as well?

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« Reply #99 on: June 22, 2005, 22:32:06 »
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looking at the picture of your halfshaft and the 5th picture along(the one that shows the sockets)

id say that is where your problem lies

look how flat the recieving splines are

corresponds with the halfshaft

it is possible that you could not turn this by hand

remember how much horse power there is in your enginge compared to your hands

and dont forget the weight of the disco


They do look worn flat. Under load it would slip
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« Reply #100 on: June 22, 2005, 22:33:32 »
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looking at the picture of your halfshaft and the 5th picture along(the one that shows the sockets)

id say that is where your problem lies

look how flat the recieving splines are

So, new half shafts as well?


looks like it Gords

try ashcrofts for the replacements, they do a HD version, not sure of the price though.
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« Reply #101 on: June 22, 2005, 22:41:27 »
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looking at the picture of your halfshaft and the 5th picture along(the one that shows the sockets)

id say that is where your problem lies

look how flat the recieving splines are

So, new half shafts as well?


ill give you an example

i have a cordless screwdriver

sometimes its fine and does the job

sometimes when im trying to countersink a screw the extra force or torque causes it to slip

making a rattly scraping noise

im quite new to landrovers so i dont know if this is a common or rare problem

but i can tell you i had the same problem on my daihatsu fourtrack on the front diff
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« Reply #102 on: June 22, 2005, 22:43:15 »
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try ashcrofts for the replacements, they do a HD version, not sure of the price though.

Not [!Expletive Deleted!] likely :shock:
http://www.ashcroft-transmissions.co.uk/part_26.html

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« Reply #103 on: June 22, 2005, 22:46:04 »
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try ashcrofts for the replacements, they do a HD version, not sure of the price though.

Not !Expletive Deleted! likely :shock:
http://www.ashcroft-transmissions.co.uk/part_26.html


 :shock: see what you mean!
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« Reply #104 on: June 22, 2005, 22:46:47 »
now now kiddy winks,lets keep things cheap n nice n simple so step back from the lsd's n lockers & the uprated 1/2 shafts
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« Reply #105 on: June 22, 2005, 22:49:18 »
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now now kiddy winks,lets keep things cheap n nice n simple so step back from the lsd's n lockers & the uprated 1/2 shafts

Too bloody right mate :wink:

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« Reply #106 on: June 22, 2005, 22:52:51 »
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now now kiddy winks,lets keep things cheap n nice n simple so step back from the lsd's n lockers & the uprated 1/2 shafts




exactly


try a breakers yard
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« Reply #107 on: June 22, 2005, 22:56:28 »
i no where there is a full set under a v8 disco eh chuggaman?
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« Reply #108 on: June 22, 2005, 23:01:44 »
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i no where there is a full set under a v8 disco eh chuggaman?


omg


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« Reply #109 on: June 22, 2005, 23:35:33 »
Done a request on The Parts Gateway for a diff and half shafts. Lets see what the prices are like tomorrow!

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« Reply #110 on: June 22, 2005, 23:50:03 »
try landroverheaven.co.uk or .com
cant remember
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« Reply #111 on: June 23, 2005, 00:26:18 »
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It is sealed on with hylomar (you will need some to put it back on).

Where do you get hylomar from? Does it have other names?

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« Reply #112 on: June 23, 2005, 07:08:18 »
'Hylomar' is a trade name for a type of (blue) Aero-grade gasket sealant.  It should be available from any good motorist shop.

Personally, I'd use Hermatite Instant Gasket (Red or Orange) for this particular job in preferance to Hylomar - it just seems less susceptible to leaks with the EP90 oil ...
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« Reply #113 on: June 23, 2005, 07:12:33 »
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It is sealed on with hylomar (you will need some to put it back on).

Where do you get hylomar from? Does it have other names?


Blue Hylomar
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« Reply #114 on: June 23, 2005, 09:04:10 »
I assume the Hermatite / Hylomar is "as well as" the normal gasket?

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« Reply #115 on: June 23, 2005, 10:33:38 »
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I assume the Hermatite / Hylomar is "as well as" the normal gasket?




yep as well as the little paper gasket
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« Reply #116 on: June 23, 2005, 11:04:33 »
Oh yes, should the half shaft bolts have thread lock (loctite?) on them? The end of the bolts is kind of blue :?

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« Reply #117 on: June 23, 2005, 11:22:35 »
Secondhand diff and half shafts on their way from a breakers. Oil ordered from Difflock. Off to Guildford Land Rover soon for the gaskets (hope they're in stock!).

Just got to put it all back together then ... and get it MOT'd as it expired yesterday :roll:  That's where I was headed when it broke :evil:

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« Reply #118 on: June 23, 2005, 11:44:30 »
The half shaft bolts do need to be loctited.
Sounds like the job's a good 'un Gords.

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« Reply #119 on: June 23, 2005, 11:45:27 »
Fingers crossed Gords.

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