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Big Blue update - it's terminal
davidlandy:
good luck with the letter Simon but dont hold your breath
best thing is that we all search for a nice shiny new td5 lump for ya, then Ill get my engine lift round, few friends, few beers... then before you know it Vroom Vroom again.
You could always do a v8 conversion! joke btw.
thermidorthelobster:
After the Watchdog investigation into the TD5 oil pump problem, the general concensus was that even though LR claimed that they had no liability outside (I think) 6 years, consumer laws could be interpreted to say that they'd sold you a duffer from the outset, hence the goods were not "fit for purpose" as sold, which means there is no time limit on LR's liability.
LR would probably argue that it's natural wear and tear, but on the whole I think Watchdog concluded that the customer has a stronger case in this instance.
I'd expect LR to try to put you off, but if you are persistent you may win out. If it helps, I know a very good consumer lawyer, who could give you decent legal advice and pen the odd letter or two, unfortunately not for free but probably for less than the cost of a new engine!
Good luck,
David
thermidorthelobster:
Oh, one other option -
You could get a new engine fitted by a main dealer (to get you back on the road) and pursue Land Rover for the cost. Some people, I believe, have been successful in this approach. The down side is that if you don't win, you're landed with the main dealer charges yourself.
If you get an independent to fit a new engine, you may well have problems recovering the costs from LR at a later date if it comes to it... Stuck between a rock and a hard place then.
Hightower:
David,
I expect LR to put up a bit of a fight over this, but having worked for GM for a few years I know how the system works. It sounds kind of sad, but I'm looking forward to the challenge of getting summat out of them.
Have picked up the following phrase from the Watchdog letter template and added it into my letter:
--- Quote ---the bolt and/or fitting of the bolt (and therefore the engine and the Vehicle) was not of satisfactory quality, and in breach of the implied or express terms of contract of sale
--- End quote ---
It works as a warning shot to LR. After that we can get legal if they want, but I really don't think that it will go that far (says he hopefully :roll: ). Will keep your lawyer in mind if it does though.
Unfortunately I can't afford to get a dealer, or independent for that matter, to just fit a new engine at my expense. I am going to have to get LR to do something, even if it is just to supply a new lump. I can then just pay to have it fitted etc.
Cheers
Simon
(currently walking to and from work until Piglet comes back from the garage)
iianorthants:
hope it goes well, as i didn't have much fun with our troubles with landrover. just be willing to put in a lot of time without a car as when i talked to some of the members of the freelander club they had gone without cars for over 6months fighting with landrover to foot the bill :(. I gave in after getting free parts and over half the labour paid for (had to weigh up the cost of being without and getting fixed).
one thing is, if the do offer to pay for it don't use northampton .... as they don't know how to put engines back together :(
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