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Greenpeace - Climate Criminals !!!
jnoshea:
I wrote to my MP a couple of weeks ago about the anti 4x4 movement and got a very nice reply. He appreciated the arguments I was putting across and was encouraged to recieve a letter from a 4x4 driver who cares about the environment. As most of us in the mud-club have similar views perhaps it would be a good idea for all of us to contact our MPs to show that what we drive has nothing to do with how we feel about the environment, that it is our lifestyle as a whole which counts. I was really pleased that he is of the opinion that arguing over whether one type of car is more inefficient than another is pointless on the scale of things. He agrees with me that everyone should have a personal carbon quota, and leave it to us to partition it out in how we run our cars, businesses, homes, shopping, hobbies etc. I'm all for this, and have been doing it ever since I bought the discovery. I plant new trees to offset my anual carbon emissions from the landrover, I've super-insulated my home to use less gas, all our bulbs are energy saving, we don't have a dishwasher, and I'm quite happy to not take a holiday abroad this year. If you add it all up, our househould produces far less CO2 in a year than the majority of households that simply don't care or are not aware of the issues of climate change. The assumption that 4x4 drivers don't care about the climate just becuase their car uses 33% more fuel than the average saloon is nonsense. Society is picking out scapegoats so they don't have to stop and look at their own polution problem. They think that if they get 4x4s off the road it will solve everything...blind, naive, fools.
[jnoshea steps down from his soap box]
Priglet:
Yesterday's Sunday Telegraph had an article that reckoned global warming wasn't that bad.
Working from memory cold areas would get a slight temperature rise and hot areas would get more rainfall. Therefore tourism in Britain will improve as temperatures improve 1 or 2 degrees and food production will increase with better weather.
Hot places such as Australia and Africa will get more rainfall and also make them more productive.
Seems to be a win win situation to me :D
the loon:
--- Quote from: "jnoshea" ---I wrote to my MP a couple of weeks ago about the anti 4x4 movement and got a very nice reply. He appreciated the arguments I was putting across and was encouraged to recieve a letter from a 4x4 driver who cares about the environment. As most of us in the mud-club have similar views perhaps it would be a good idea for all of us to contact our MPs to show that what we drive has nothing to do with how we feel about the environment, that it is our lifestyle as a whole which counts. [jnoshea steps down from his soap box]
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think I've said this before but I'll say it again.
How about someone writes a "standard" letter and post in forum so we can all email to any anti's sights or print and post to MP's etc?
I know this sounds like I'm being lazzy but I really havent a clue about emissions etc
I take my bottles,cans,paper etc to the relivent skip's at the recycling centre (although cant use the land rover now due to fact that need a permit for it at the tip - its a loooong story )
also this gives us chance to form a united effort against people who are knocking us simply because they just dont understand the facts or chose to ignore any information,details that dont fit in to there tunnel vision view of the world
muddyweb:
Because standard letters get ignored. As soon as someone gets 2 the same, then they are devalued.
Much better to write a letter expressing your own personal worries, questions, comments, etc.
To be honest, all the information is out there, so if you want to find out about emissions, etc. you can. That way you will also be better informed and prepared when it comes to dealing with the berks you meet in real life.
the loon:
--- Quote from: "muddyweb" ---Because standard letters get ignored. As soon as someone gets 2 the same, then they are devalued.
Much better to write a letter expressing your own personal worries, questions, comments, etc.
To be honest, all the information is out there, so if you want to find out about emissions, etc. you can. That way you will also be better informed and prepared when it comes to dealing with the berks you meet in real life.
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point taken on the devaluation bit tim but still think its a good idear myself
where would be a good starting place for info?
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