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Guy90:
I get the same if I work 37 or 60 (and its typically 60). I don't have the type of job where I can just sign off.

I wonder how it will be enforced?

Andy the Landy:

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--- Quote ---The flip side of the argument is, I get paid the same however much I work.
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ditto
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Same here - if I work 6 hours I get paid the same as if I work 12 hrs - more often its 12 hrs :(

nzrover:
Christ - that's unworkable.  The place I used to work did 10 hour days Mon-Thur with the option of overtime every night, another 10 overtime on Friday and up to 6 hours on a Saturday.  My normal week was about 55 hours without working the Saturday, and everything over the 40 hours was an extra payment.  Without doing those hours I'd never have been able to afford a house or a 4WD to play in.  All this stupid directive will do is increase poverty and decrease the standard of living for everyone.

datalas:
the trouble is that a *lot* of places whilst having the "free option" to "opt out" weren't quite as free with that option as you might imagine.  Tesco's for example were quite happy for you to work no more than 48 hours a week, however their deputy managers are expected to do a minimum of five ten hour shifts.  You could opt out of doing more than 48 hours if you wished, but you would then be unfit for the job.

It's a difficult one, and I can *sort* of see why they wanted to address the issue,  since a lot of companies now have no concept of overtime and have clauses in their contracts that stipulate you work XX hours a week; or however many hours are required to work the job in hand.  This has always been the case since I started being paid a yearly salary and is, at least, a tad unfair.  I ended up working 76 hour weeks for not a shred of overtime under threat of being unemployed if I didn't.

It's presumably situations like that which the directive is setting out to circumvent,  however as you say it is inherently unworkable and unfair to the employees of people with a hint of morality to their names...

I rather suspect that it'll be largely ignored by the companies small enough to not be noticed.  How this will effect the "larger" places is the more interesting question, principly the NHS ...

Guess time will tell

muddysteve:
i think you'll find the 48 hours does not include voluntary unpaid overtime or work at home as usually carried out by managers and salaried staff etc.

luckilly i'm paid hourly for o/t and already governed by rules saying how many hours i can work a week etc. also as a matter of interest you can work more than 48 hours in a week but your averavge must be less when worked out over the year


Steve

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