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V8MoneyPit:
Great reality check, YT. You're right, of course. We do need to get this in perspective.
In answer to part of DXM's post, I understand over a thousand arrests have been made (is that in London alone?). In which case the total numbers involved must run into many thousands I assume.
What these idiots are doing is wrong. The causes of it can be blamed on many things. Ultimately, it is the individuals doing it who had a choice and chose to do it. But the fact many of them seem to think it's perfectly acceptable behaviour is what I find most worrying.
Saffy:
one of the things that are clear from all this...
If wanting to cause chaos, disruption with the extremely slow response from the authorities then carry out such 'attacks' whilst all the top men in suits are on vacation.
dxmedia:
--- Quote from: V8MoneyPit on August 11, 2011, 10:22:31 ---Great reality check, YT. You're right, of course. We do need to get this in perspective.
In answer to part of DXM's post, I understand over a thousand arrests have been made (is that in London alone?). In which case the total numbers involved must run into many thousands I assume.
What these idiots are doing is wrong. The causes of it can be blamed on many things. Ultimately, it is the individuals doing it who had a choice and chose to do it. But the fact many of them seem to think it's perfectly acceptable behaviour is what I find most worrying.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14486996
888 arrests in total in London. That is out of a population of 8,278,251 that is 0.01% of the population. A TINY amount of people. Yes what these people is going is wrong, but the media are reporting it like it's doomsday.
How many arrests like these are made over a 'normal' 4 day period in London? It would also not surprise me if it's the same people who would be getting arrested.
The figure of about 1000 is for UK wide. That's a population of 60 000 000, that works out at 0.0016% of the population. Figures so small they are just about totally insignificant (not belittling the stress of the people who have been effected, but really, not that many people have been).
Are the insurance claims being put forward at the moment any more than would have been other wise. If someone burns down a shop or a house they are an arsonist. Just because they do it with a group of other people doesn't mean that they wouldn't have done it anyway? If they are that way inclined it can hardly be called peer pressure.
My thoughts go out to people such as the employees of the sony distribution warehouse who were probably on minimum wage picking and packing who might well be out of work for some time. But taken as an average - is it any more than normal?
dxmedia:
And who wants to run a book on london glaziers have just put up their prices? OOooo there's a glass shortage you know ***cough***. There's plenty people going to be coming away from this with a lot more than they would have done otherwise.
V8MoneyPit:
The media will always run with whatever 'news' is what they see as 'current'. Follow up's don't sell newspapers, etc. It's the shock, horror, this is happening on your street stuff that sells. You can't deny that what has been shown is dramatic. That's why they show it. Ultimately, they have to present what sells, not necessarily what you or I would like to see. And it would seem the majority of newspaper buyers like to see the over embellished fiction that they provide.
I actually suspect many of the people involved might not steal if they were on their own. There will be others, probably the majority, that would. Just like you say.
I suspect the crimes committed in these so called riots, are in addition to the 'normal' crime being carried out. As are the resulting insurance claims. It would, indeed, be interesting to get a feel for the normal levels compared to what's happened in the last few days.
--- Quote from: dxmedia on August 11, 2011, 12:53:23 ---And who wants to run a book on london glaziers have just put up their prices? OOooo there's a glass shortage you know ***cough***. There's plenty people going to be coming away from this with a lot more than they would have done otherwise.
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Such a cynic! Where's your belief in human goodness? OK, so you are probably right :laugh:
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