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Eeyore:
Just to add a tuppence:
My views on dislocation are equally well known and far too anorak for words! Suffice to say I've met a lot of vehicle designers and engineers in my time.

Flower, sadly, doesn't have a locker (yet.....) but will happily pop springs all day if pushed. I'm easy with this as the very hard springing (she has been known to carry big loads a very long way) limits the compression upwards, so I compensate by dangling further. Works for me.

Interestingly, the other 110 pictured earlier has no dampers (go check if you don't beleive me) - these will limit droop. You'll also not know that the spring is his case is fastened at the top and dislocates from the bottom.

cheers
 8)
Eeyore

Wanderer:
Personally I look at them as being an easier way of relocating things when they do get out of shape.

My main worry would be leaving a site with a spring that has been out and had then reseated wrongly sitting on the edge of the spring seat. Then travelling at any speed on the motorway going home and the spring suddenly deciding to jump back into its proper location and having an adverse momentary effect on the vehicles handling.

So the question should really be. Should the suspension be allowed to "dislocate" in the first place.
It's nearly as bad as Should I vote Labour Conservative or LibDem?

Monster Raving Loony Party for me!

A bit of a tip that helped me though is to situate the spring in such a way that the rounded part of the spring makes the first contact with the seat as it will rub and guide itself back in whereas the flat part of the spring will catch and not reseat even with the cones fitted.

Ed

muddyweb:

--- Quote from: "wanderer" ---So the question should really be. Should the suspension be allowed to "dislocate" in the first place.
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That's what I said ;-)


--- Quote from: "muddyweb" ---Forget the cones...  as I have said before, they make no difference to the suspension travel.  
The question was "Does dislocation help ?",  and that is a wholly more complex discussion.
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Wanderer:
Sorry Tim,
Missed that one :(

Ed

Jake:

--- Quote from: "muddyweb" ---I've been staying out of this, had this discussion far too many times...  but a couple of observations....

The guy in the picture below did very well up the ramp... he's on leaf springs ;-)

I don't believe that just by adding something to give you more droop travel will imrpove your vehicle's ability in a real-world situation.  I would suspect than many of the vehicles on the ramp with location cones also have long-travel springs and other suspension modifications... so don't assume that just allowing your springs away from the chassis is going to make things better.... don't forget that doing so also brings with it a number of additional problems.

If you are interested in driving up metal ramps on tarmac, then many of these systems are very good... but when all is said an done, there is no substitute for choosing the right line and driving it properly  ;-)
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Sorry to be a spoil sport but thats a coil sprung series 2
like i said, sorry :oops:

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