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dislocation does it help !!!!!!
iianorthants:
--- Quote from: "Thrasher" ---I didn't say they were a waste of time :-)
I said : "Forgive me I've being stupid here, but the whole idea of fitting a cone is to GUIDE THE SPRING back into position after you have caused it pop out of it's mounting."
The best test would be to get 1 of each vehicle to drive over a cross axle that would stop a vehicle without a centre difflock - then drive each over and see how they react. The newer vehicles will do the cross axle in different way to the older ones - by merit of their monocoque design....
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sort of what i suggested but everyone is taking it in dfferent ways :? and was only ment to be a bit of general banter, but may be getting a litle out of hand :lol:
All boils down to “each to their ownâ€Â, everyone comes up with that soon as the spring dislocates traction is lost. But when fitting the cones I can get an easy a 2+ inch gap before tyre starts to lift off floor (not got any shock drop adaptors yet). Up till the point when shock stops and starts lifting the axle the tyre is still compressed a little so meaning force is still applied (maybe mine is just the odd one out).
I know people keep saying it doesn’t help through deep mud, but I never said it would. If I could afford to blow £1000+ on front and rear lockers I would. but for the limited use they would get I don’t see the point, as for spending £30 to get that little bit of help on crossing the odd obstacle it’s more realistic for what I want, it boils down to each to their own again.
Take it nobody noticed how the vehicle with spring relocators seem to out perform the fixed ones in getting up the ramp at Gaydon !!!! so somehow they are able to keep traction longer thus getting further up the ramp, maybe they believe in the FORCE and they will themselves up there :roll: .
So basically you want to do mud runs you maybe need big grippy tyres and a lot of right foot :twisted: .
Or if you want to do technical bits like climbs and obstacles maybe suspension mods might help. (I know your all gunna say I can get up any hill with my V8 and foot to the floor but not everyone’s the same!!!!!! And why should we be!!!!)
Mace:
to quote David Landy
=D> =D>
well said Ian
:(contented):
Thrasher:
My V8 climbs hill with gentle throttle application - it's the torque that helps, not the heavy foot and spinning wheels. Also, the LSD's help too.
Oh....and CLEARANCE UNDER THE DIFFS :-)
muddyweb:
I've been staying out of this, had this discussion far too many times... but a couple of observations....
The guy in the picture below did very well up the ramp... he's on leaf springs ;-)
I don't believe that just by adding something to give you more droop travel will imrpove your vehicle's ability in a real-world situation. I would suspect than many of the vehicles on the ramp with location cones also have long-travel springs and other suspension modifications... so don't assume that just allowing your springs away from the chassis is going to make things better.... don't forget that doing so also brings with it a number of additional problems.
If you are interested in driving up metal ramps on tarmac, then many of these systems are very good... but when all is said an done, there is no substitute for choosing the right line and driving it properly ;-)
davidlandy:
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Take it nobody noticed how the vehicle with spring relocators seem to out perform the fixed ones in getting up the ramp at Gaydon !!!! so somehow they are able to keep traction longer thus getting further up the ramp, maybe they believe in the FORCE and they will themselves up there :roll: .
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its a 110 - so its gonna get at least 20" further than a 90! :shock:
I think that Eeyore may have a rear locker.
as you say each to their own - most people are not seeing the merits of them but go buy them as you clearly want to, then every time you get stuck we will take the mick!!! (in a nice way)
:wink: :D
make that 2 sets , andy needs some as well :D :wink:
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