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Henry Webster:

--- Quote from: "muddyweb" ---Secondly, we often seem to forget that DEFRA is essentially a bunch of civil servants... they aren't politicians and have very little to do with the government.    Whilst a petition is good to show the level of people affected and who have an opinion, it reality I'm not sure they will pay it much heed.

Sorry if I seem to be negative about this, the last thing I want to see is the further reduction in available land, but I am concerned that no-one else seems to be publically presenting all the information and arguments.
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Muddyweb,

Thanks for your interest, most of your concerns are ones that reverberate with me - it is much better to argue from a point of knowledge.

Thanks for your insight into how subsidies are taken up - that's useful to know.  As I say I don't pretend to be an expert and I don't have much spare time at the moment to research it as thoroughly as I would like.

I agree with your point about DEFRA being civil servants, that's exactly why the legal measures that organisations such as the MSA and ACU are looking at may well be the best solution.  On the petition front, I am neither a particular fan of this method, nor convinced it will have much effect, but it might count against us if now it has been started it doesn't show a significant amount of support for the cause - hence why I am keen to promote it!

Cheers

H

davidlandy:
6.5k now

muddyweb:
I hope they remove some of the duplications before they send it.... there seem to be a fair few in there.

Seriously though, I am not against this.. I have 'signed' it myself to show a weight of support for motorsport rather than in any belief that it will be effective.... and as I said before, don't fool yourself into thinking that a change in government will make any difference to this... Defra will carry on regardless under the Conservatives or Lib Dems.

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