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dirt bike laws
SteveGoodz:
--- Quote from: carbore on October 07, 2010, 17:38:47 ---Hello, I agree with you Llanigraham, but the issue is with the defitiniton of "Motor vehicle" and "Being used".
Obviously some chav zooming on a mini bike is "using it", but if someone is pushing it is that "using it" and especially if its not registered as a "motor vehicle" even if it is motorised and capable of carrying a person (e.g. if someone made a nitro RC car you could sit on, is that a motor vehicle if its not being "used" as such)
In fact I have just thought, I have a Ride on mower, I know f I drove it under its own power on the road it would need the to be registered and comply etc (like council mowers), but if I pushed it would it up the road to my neighbours need to comply?
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According to te road traffic act the correct description is a mechanically propelled vehicle (mpv) and that is defined as any vehicle that is equipped with a mechanised propulsion system (e.g internal combustion engine, electric motor, etc). A dirt bike - however you describe it - is a mpv.
"Use" includes simply being there. The vehicle doesn't actually have to be in motion to be being used. Park it at the kerb-side .. it's in use. It's a legal definition not an English language one.
Pushing it along the footway or highway is illegal unless it conforms to C&U Regs, is taxed, insured and mot'd
There are no grey areas in this except how the police officer would treat you if stopped.
dxmedia:
Isn't there a 14 mph issue? It's why motorised wheel chairs aren't classed as motor vehicles?
Not going into the 50cc engine my 15 yr old neighbour bought and bolted to his push bike and rides around the village....
john656:
If you have access to a trailer use it. Your intentions are nothing more than innocent, however, Mr Murphy's Law states that as soon as your rear tyre hits the path or road Mr :police: man will pull around the corner after having a bad day with a little chav on a mini moto racing around public roads...... you know where its going. For the sakes of 10 minutes either end, compared to the hassle of getting the bike back (if they would give it back) if you got caught having a bike on public roads or paths that is un-registered UN MOT'd etc etc.
If its on a trailer theres no if ands or buts.
My 2p's worth.
John
zebidee:
If I remember correctly it's illegal to push a bicycle along a pavement. You're meant to have the bike on the road not the pavement:
http://www.bikeforall.net/content/cycling_and_the_law.php
--- Quote ---Bicycles are, in law, carriages (as a consequence of the Taylor v Goodwin judgment in 1879) and should be on the road not pavement.
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So if it's (strictly speaking) illegal to push a bicycle along a pavement - I reckon it'll definitely be frowned on if you're pushing a trials bike along a pavement.
Z~
aaron:
Not wanting to put a cat among the pigeons............. how do people get away with riding those electric powered pedal bikes? You know the ones which look like a moped but with out the engine. They have lights but no number plates and people who use them don't wear a helmet. Just curious as there is a guy who lives near me who uses one, he is such a big guy it hardly propels him so he scoots it along with one leg wobbling worrying all over the road.
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