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boss:
actually spitting!

i went on my ipaf course today with one of our new starts(who starts on tuesday) only to learn that he will be starting on more money than me! ive been at the firm for 16 months. have not recived a pay rise (so essentially ive taken a paycut when you take into account inflation)and they bring this new guy in who starts on more money and gets all the training i should have got when i started (but i diddnt)

now, its a small firm so evereyone can talk to evereyone else fairly easeley, not really a matter of us and them when it comes to the managers and the operators so its difficult to keep secrets. the fact that there bringing on one new bloke who is on more money than me is bad enough........but when there bringing in 4 more people 3 of whitch are younger than i am the other only older by a year. none of them have any engineering knowledge and there all on a higher rate is just insulting.

dont get me wrong i am very very greatfull for having a job, but when i work as hard as i do (averaging a 50 hour week, after brakes) and the company does this sort of thing....what the hell!


PM me for my cv  :evil:

Saffy:
Maybe he negotiated a better wage for himself, have you tried likewise at your periodic reviews?

Karen696:
Somebody with loads of experience and fantastic technical know-how may not necessarily be a good negotiator.  Does that mean an engineer (or any other techie) should get crap pay?

A few years ago (circa 1990) I worked as a trainer for a large training organisation in Birmingham, following their usual procedures they advertised a 'trainee' trainer position internally before advertising it to the public.  I was fuming - the starting pay they were offering was 2 grand a year more than I was on!  And in 1990 2 grand was worth a lot more than it is today.

So following company procedures I asked my manager if I could apply for the position.....  I got my pay rise.

I have the added disadvantage of being a female 'techie', it looks like I will have to change job again just to try to keep up with the pay rates being offered to my male colleagues.  Getting equal pay is next to impossible in a small company, the number of excuses, oh sorry 'reasons' are amazing. 

Honestly I believe that sometimes the only way is  to jump ship and get a better deal at the start of the new employment, sometimes it scares the company you are with into at least matching the pay rate they offered the new employee. 

Oh and before somebody say it might be because I am no good at my job, or have poor attendance or something.  I am considered very good at my job and have been 'head-hunted' twice.  Each time the company I was with said 'if its a matter of pay ... ' in one case only two weeks after a review where I was told there was 'absolutely no chance of any pay rises in the current year....'

Only in a large company with a grading and pay structure is there any hope - and just look whats happened at Birmingham council!

So good luck with your re-negotiation, or the job hunting whichever you decide to do.

dxmedia:
Try working in IT. Pay rises just don't happen. Promotions do, just never cost of living...

Pop down your local CAB and have a chat. I'm pretty sure they are sitting on a legal fence with their feet dangling on the wrong side. Something to do with 2 people doing the same job should (give or take) be payed the same amount. Don't go bull in a china shop at work, it might just be an over sight.  Hell I used to manage 45 people, at any one time I couldn't have accuratly told you all their wages.

woody:
wel i work in education (post 16)
three of us in the same job three different wages
no wage relates to the time served or the individuals work load
last year thera was no pay rise or cost of living allowance

and some students take home more money than me and i teach them :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:

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