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Terranger:
Not sure if this subject has been raised before?
This subject is driving me demented. So much so, I've been to see my local MP. Basically been told that this European Directive has been implemented since 2008.

From what I've been told about this course, someone gives out a blah-blah intro, then, you're given a questionnaire to fill out, and, if you don't know the answers, you get told them anyway. Then the inspector/tutor says thank you and pockets the cash.

But, and here's the rub, it's not just a one-off, you pay out every year to keep hold of your respective licence.

As far as I'm concerned, I've paid for my Licences, albeit 20 years ago.
I'm not a new-start!!

I've spoken to other drivers, of a similar age, who are also incensed with this bull#### ruling, which, surprise, surprise, has come from Europe.

I've told the dole office that I'm not prepared, nor, can I afford to pay this out of my wages, as I earn little or nothing, and, they've told me I'll get nothing from the DHSS/DWP if i sign on. It's like paying a tax to keep me in a job???????? I DON'T GET IT???????????

If anyone can enlighten me on this subject, maybe I can calm down, although I don't know any other unskilled sector who needs to pay for to stay in their respective jobs.
Help me understand Mud-Clubbers.

Drift:
I was asked to take it in work last week, told them Im 45 this year and Im letting my PCV and HGV go...cant wait been promising myself it for years now.
(I work in the office now so dont need the licences, good riddance.)

frosty:

  as you say, its just another bullship rule from europe.. ill put mine off until the last minute, which i think a lot of drivers are going to do, then when 2/3rds of drivers dont have it hopefully the country will grind to a holt!

MuddyDiscoveryJay:
I have done one section in Jan this year, it is the 1st of 5, 7 hour sessions to be completed over 5 years. The cpc is designed to give the driver a qualification. All members of the dispatch team and drivers are to complete the course.
I personally found it a chance to put my feet up, eat free food and get some sleep. It's all about company management, tachographs and coffee. It is bloody expensive for what it is and everyone should be helped out in order to complete the course. Afterall it is compulsory and your license is worth diddly squat if you dont have it. Straight after the first day I was prepared to hang up my keys after being what i felt was 7 hours of pure patronising.
Have fun, I didnt  :dance:

muddyjames:
I am going to add a different light to it. I actually found mine quiet interesting, mainly due to my other hobbies it helped me with that too.

You DO NOT loose your lisence after 2015, you just can not drive commercially. If you have a horse box that can take 8 horses and tow a caravan behind for personal reasons only then you can still do that, no problems.

The courses arent set out as 1 course that it is end of. There are many courses that covers many things, as long as it is based around health, driving and safety. So yes there are courses about tacho ahours, there are some that are about healthy eating, driving more economically where an assessor takes you out on the road and points out ways that could bebetter fuel consumption etc. My 7 hours was all about safety of refuse collecting, eg banksman, what to look out for when reversing, safe lifting, writing risk assesments. This last 1 was very handy as I have never quiet grasped writing them and had grey areas which are now not grey.

I do agree it is a con and another stealth tax but if it means some drivers hang up thier keys as they dont want to do the hours cpc etc, then surely it will just mean the drivers who are out there, are the ones who want to be driving and not just driving because they have to and have done for x amount of years and has been working for jo bloggs and is un happy doing what they are doing and has had no push to do something else? It will open up jobs for those who want to work for Jo Bloggs too.

After the full 35 hours wyou will get a green card like your digi cards and driving license to carry around with you. If you do all 35 hours say next week, then the 5 years your card lasts is from the end of next week. do 1 day every year you string the card out longer. eg

35 hours now in 2010, card starts in 2010 lasts until 2015 and you have to do the stuff all over again.
7 hours over next 5 years, card starts in 2015 and you can drive for 5 years, and expires in 2020, so in theory by doing 7 hours each year you save yourself alot of money.

I am fairly sure that in 10 years time all this money will have been spent and the hgv business will be on its knees with no drivers and they will drop it. Having heard what new hgv drivers have to do now is beyond belief before they can sit thier driving test. They have cpc stuff to do before hand.

1 final thing. you can not pass or fail the cpc. It is purely a training / refresher scheme where as long as you attend the full amount of hours you will get the ticket.

I didnt get free food and annoyingly everyone else got sent home due to snow but 7 of us had to sit in the cpc course wishing we were the session the week before so we could be home too!

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