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muddyjames:
Can anyone explain to me the scoring behind tax exempt status?

If say a new chassis was put on as the old was so rotten it was falling appart, would that still mean it is tax exempt?

If you put a new chassis and a different engine in would it still be tax exempt?

This seems like a mine field I am trying to get my head around when looking at landies to buy.

trecfive:
The basis of Tax Exemption is that the vehicle must be registered on or before 1973 or proof of it being built.Chassis ,engine and any other details are irrelevant but someone else will be along soon that will be able to dot all the I's and cross the T's

muddyjames:
I have found this on another landy forum.


--- Quote ---There are a possible total of 14 points for tax exemption. You have to retain 8 points to continue claiming tax exemption (Historic Status).

1 Point for the engine.
5 Points for the chassis.
2 Points for the transmission.
2 Points for the steering assembly.
2 Points for the suspension
2 Points for the axles.
= 14 Points in total.

For example, if you change the engine for a newer type 2.5 you will lose that 1 point. If you change the gearbox as well (for a newer type) you will lose another 2 points and so on.

series Landys are much more workable with replacement parts, if you put in a replacement reconditioned series engine this won't affect any points. The same goes for Parabolic springs, they are classed as a "Direct replacement part" so therefore the points system will not be affected for any vehicle before 1973.
--- End quote ---

The points system doesnt seem to mention a bulkhead. I have been wondering about maybe finding an old 2a and robbing it for the exempt parts, ie axles, steering, engine etc but putting it onto a galv chassis or if the chassis is good just pop a s3 bulkhead in. I really dont like 2a interirors but I do really like s3 interirors. Would a s3 bulk head loose points?

I shall await the boffins! lol

NiteMare:
right then, series landies are quite simple to retain the tax exempt status ...

you can replace the chassis with a "new" like for like replacement, modifying the chassis can and will most likely require an IVA (used to be SVA) which means you'll most likely end up with a Q plate and pay VED (Richards or Marsland do galvy chassis), leaf springs means any large multiple leaf things that fit to the original mountings (no carving and fitting with coils), cut the old chassis up and keep the drivers side dumbiron if the chassis number is still visible...

you can swap any of the bodywork to suit yourself (no points affected) including the bulkhead as long as you don't have to mod' the chassis to accomodate it...

you can swap the engine, with i think the loss of only 1 point, and another point  for the gearbox (fitting a different gearbox without modifying the chassis might be a problem tho)...

you can swap the axles with like for like but it makes it harder to prove thiers and the cars age (both carry stamped numbers) so retain the scrap tubes as proof...

modify the steering and you'll lose points unless it can be reversed easily, there is a bolt on powersteering assistance assembly that can be bought that fits without welding and cutting so that can be used without affecting your points...

i think that gets about as simple as i can think of, you only need to retain 8 or 9 points to keep the exempt status and the chassis carries 5, steering i think is 2, axles i think another 2 and 1 each for engine and transmission...

if you want to run the risk of having it cubed and probably being prosecuted you can do anything you like, but remember your insurance if you go mad on the mod's as an incorrect description could end up voiding it (another possible prosecution)

muddyjames:
thanks for that.

I have no plans on heavily modifiying it as I like the look of series motors and the way they drive. Yes, I like the no power steering. It means you have to drive the car as opposed to modern cars where you point and shoot!

You say you have to keep the dumb iron with chassis number on. I was looking at new chasis and so how do you keep the chassis number on the new chassis?

Ideally in a dream worl I would like a galv chassis and bulkhead.

Hmm. food for thought anyway. A summer project might be fun to do if I can find a rotten s3 really cheap and swap the chassis over and bulk head. I guess it would cost about 2k to do that with buying a new chassis and bulkhead?

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