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When is a Race Not a Race??
Henry Webster:
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Most times events are governed by the ARC (association of rover clubs or the MSA (Motor sports assocation) and they can apply for an excemption to the road traffic act. This will allow you to drive at unlimted speed whilst still within the law.
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This is quite a complicated area, most, though not all motorsport events in the UK are governed by the MSA. The ARC is itself affiliated to the MSA.
In order to organise a timed event on the public road (including green lanes) you must be an affiliated club and apply for a permit. You may also be required, depending on the type of event to speak to the local route liason officer and give a copy of the route to the police. You will almost definitely need to visit every household on the route to let them know the details of the event.
All the information is in the MSA's Blue Book.
I think it is worth clarifying that one thing that an MSA event permit doesn't do is "allow you to drive at unlimted speed whilst still within the law" when on the public road. The use of public roads is strictly limited and you must obey all the usual rules of the road. The timed sections must be timed to an average of no-more than 30mph, unless motorway is involved whereupon it can rise to 50mph.
There are a few qualified exemptions to all of the above. You can without a permit - if you are not an MSA club run a road event with less than 12-Cars (also known as a 12-car rally if run with an MSA exemption of permit), but the issue of insurance is difficult. Much easier to do it as part of an MSA club.
I'll try and answer any questions that you have. I have organised a number of road events in my time...
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drum:
Thanks Henry, very interesting, as I say just idle musing at the moment, but if I came up with anything not doubt I'll be back with more questions.
Once again thanks.
Henry Webster:
I think there is some mileage in the sort of way that you are thinking.
I did my first Hillrally after competing on ScottishLROC's Exercise Mudmaster event which was a sort of multi-site orienteering exercise, culminating in a trial the next day.
The Macmillan runs to a similar format (I believe) and Southern Counties Off Road Club's Ebble Valley Trail is essentially and off road - road rally!
I have thought for a while that it would be good to have a sort of road-based event that could introduce people into hillrallying with their 'normal' road motors! :D The equivalent of the job that road rallying does for stage rallies.
Regards
H
muddyweb:
--- Quote from: "Henry Webster" ---The Macmillan runs to a similar format (I believe) and Southern Counties Off Road Club's Ebble Valley Trail is essentially and off road - road rally
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MacMillan does run a similar format... special stages joined with road orienteering. For info, it runs with MSA insurance... all non-licence holding entrants had to sign on an pay a premium.
Xtremeteam:
--- Quote ---90-V8's (even standard) can certainly surprise quite a few boy-racers at the lights
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i so agree with that after the tosser at the forth bridge tried to race me & i smoked him in the racer loaded with diffs n spares,had the wheels spinning & it sitting on the back bumpstops all the way to 6k in 2nd 8) 8)
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