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Manicminer:
Mr Diesel who first designed the engine that burns this type of fuel only had peanut oil in the very begining.
 It was a few years afterwards that derv got put in them and found to work something similar, and easier to produce/refine in quantity.

clouseau:
Nice one Guy,

I'm curious though, am I not correct in thinking that the dye used can stay in the fuel system for some time after use. If so are there any defenses in law for having purchased a vehicle that contains the contaminates without previous knowledge and whats the likelyhood of that happening. - just wondering  :wink:

Guy90:
Bill,

The dye can stay in for ages. You need to change filters etc to do what you can to get rid on it (although it can be detected at the injectors). As I say though there are other indicators we use (which I won't tell you) to show rebated fuel. This is because the dye can be removed (I won't say how).

This area is a real quirk of the law in that it is an absolute offence. Even if you didn't put it there or even knew about it you are the guilty party for taking it on the public road.

There is no defence for having it in a vehicle because the previous owner put it in. However it is likely you would have diluted it with normal diesel and therefore show that you are not a current user. Oftern you would be fined in that circumstance and not loose the motor (particularly if you did the right thing and told us where you got the motor from). The main defence is really one of conspiracy by a third party. For example a garage offering a free tank of fuel with every service and filling it with red unbeknown to the customer or, as has happened, tanker drivers for the big companies divert their lorries to an associate who off loads the real diesel (to make it go further they then dliute with kerosene) and the driver turns up at Tesco or wherever with a lorry full of red or diesel/kerosene mix and that goes in to the unsuspectly supermarket pumps.

However we now find that rebated fuel fraud has moved away from the individual seeing what he can get away with and towards large criminal gangs operating massive fuel frauds with end users being haulage companies/coach companies/private hire firms etc looking for a regular supply of diesel a few pence cheaper than the forecourt. Fuel smuggling is now massive (particularly over the Irish land border and both repulican and loyalist paramilitaries are working this scam. Once it funded guns now it makes them rich.

Incidentally the money from booze smuggling finds its way into international terrorism.

Guy

rokcrawlin:
The other little thing that is forgotten is that not only can the customs and excise seize the vehicle, but they can go for the back duty for as long as you owned the vehicle and will investigate other tax issues,  :D

Guy90:

--- Quote from: "rokcrawlin" ---The other little thing that is forgotten is that not only can the customs and excise seize the vehicle, but they can go for the back duty for as long as you owned the vehicle and will investigate other tax issues,  :D
--- End quote ---


Yep. See you in the morning :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:

Guy

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