Quick welding question!

[Yoshi]

Its been a while since i did any welding (about 8 years in fact) and i cant remember what wire to get to weld me cross member to me chassis on the 110!

I know its flux cored as its a gasless mig, but will 0.8mm do the trick?

Cheers!

Dan

[dxmedia]

.8 mild will be fine, if using gasless use a 1.0 nozzle though else you'll get sticking and jamming problems.

[barmiebrumie]

.8 mild will be fine, if using gasless use a 1.0 nozzle though else you'll get sticking and jamming problems.

as said 1.0 tip is better, also it can weld the tip to the insert  ask me how i know  :oops:

[Mutz]

Howd you know?

(well you said ask) ;)

[Yoshi]

Yeah, both me tips are 1.0mm so thats fine!

[barmiebrumie]

Howd you know?

(well you said ask) ;)

 :lol: :lol: :lol:

[hairyasswelder]

If flux core wire it will prob be 0.9mm with as stated a 1.0mm tip  ;)

Steve

[boss]

08 is my weapon of choice. BUT i belibe im right in saying that for any welding on the chassis it hasto be gas welded. cant remember where i read that but it would make sence.........but then again, no one can object to what they dont know or cant see ;)

[Yoshi]

Well as long as the weld is strong then i am fine!  Although i cant see it not being strong!

[boss]

a non gas mig is essentially an arc welder with a replenishing electrode/rod. not that theres anything wrong with that, like you say if you can weld to start with then it should be fine.

[topless matt]

Gasless migs tend to leave slag in akward places uilike an arc.
Sometimes getting in the place you are trying to weld leaving a brittle weld that wont hold.
If you clean it up ok there shouldnt be any problems  ;)

[dxmedia]

BUT i belibe im right in saying that for any welding on the chassis it hasto be gas welded

Nope, mig arc tig gas all fine on the chassis.

If anything gas, if the welder is inexperienced, which someone using a gasless mig is likely to be, is going to be the weakest weld due to cutting into the base metal before the filler rod in engaged.

a non gas mig is essentially an arc welder with a replenishing electrode/rod. not that theres anything wrong with that, like you say if you can weld to start with then it should be fine.

So is gassed mig. The gas created an inert shrowd around the weld to stop oxydisation in the same way the coating on the stick or the wire roll does. If you involve lectriccery into the weld it's arc welding, the difference is how the oxydisation is stopped.

I aint going to comment on tig since I don't know owt about it, but for gas the idea is just to melt stuff till it's sticky, then introduce the filler rod, hence not needing to stop oxydisation, unless of course you up the temp, use a gas axe and then that's exactly what you want.

[carbore]

Beware gassless mig fumes as I am load to beleivethat the flux in them is carcenogenic and lots of places are now refusing to sell it! Thats what I was told by the cap at the BOC shop anyway.

[Yoshi]

You still get it at B&Q and Homebase?

I bought mine off ebay as it was dirt cheap for what i wanted!

[dxmedia]

Beware gassless mig fumes as I am load to beleivethat the flux in them is carcenogenic and lots of places are now refusing to sell it! Thats what I was told by the cap at the BOC shop anyway.

This he was talking BS - have a google, nothing comes up.

[topless matt]

Well, he was talking some sense, some of the fumes released if enough volume can be harmful to health and some can lead to the catalysation of carsogenics.

[boss]

BUT i belibe im right in saying that for any welding on the chassis it hasto be gas welded

Nope, mig arc tig gas all fine on the chassis.

If anything gas, if the welder is inexperienced, which someone using a gasless mig is likely to be, is going to be the weakest weld due to cutting into the base metal before the filler rod in engaged.

a non gas mig is essentially an arc welder with a replenishing electrode/rod. not that theres anything wrong with that, like you say if you can weld to start with then it should be fine.

So is gassed mig. The gas created an inert shrowd around the weld to stop oxydisation in the same way the coating on the stick or the wire roll does. If you involve lectriccery into the weld it's arc welding, the difference is how the oxydisation is stopped.

I aint going to comment on tig since I don't know owt about it, but for gas the idea is just to melt stuff till it's sticky, then introduce the filler rod, hence not needing to stop oxydisation, unless of course you up the temp, use a gas axe and then that's exactly what you want.

i know that any form of welding involving electrickery is "arc" welding but an MMA/arc/stick welder has a flux coated electrode like the gassless mig which is what i ment and i belive 90% of people reading knew what i ment. and the fumes given off of MMA/gassless mig IS a carsonagenic.

[dxmedia]

BUT i belibe im right in saying that for any welding on the chassis it hasto be gas welded

Nope, mig arc tig gas all fine on the chassis.

If anything gas, if the welder is inexperienced, which someone using a gasless mig is likely to be, is going to be the weakest weld due to cutting into the base metal before the filler rod in engaged.

a non gas mig is essentially an arc welder with a replenishing electrode/rod. not that theres anything wrong with that, like you say if you can weld to start with then it should be fine.

So is gassed mig. The gas created an inert shrowd around the weld to stop oxydisation in the same way the coating on the stick or the wire roll does. If you involve lectriccery into the weld it's arc welding, the difference is how the oxydisation is stopped.

I aint going to comment on tig since I don't know owt about it, but for gas the idea is just to melt stuff till it's sticky, then introduce the filler rod, hence not needing to stop oxydisation, unless of course you up the temp, use a gas axe and then that's exactly what you want.

i know that any form of welding involving electrickery is "arc" welding but an MMA/arc/stick welder has a flux coated electrode like the gassless mig which is what i ment and i belive 90% of people reading knew what i ment. and the fumes given off of MMA/gassless mig IS a carsonagenic.

my bad then, I'd concider gas welding to be using oxy and accetlene (spelling?), and mig to come under the catagory of electric welding (since not actually using the gas to weld)

[lee celtic]

The man fro BOC would say that ......he sells GAS. :lol: :lol: :lol:

The only problem I have with gassless is after 20 mins of welding I can't see through the mask because of the white powder on the lense 

[carbore]

He also sells (or sold) non gas welding kit.

And my google search showed a lot of stuff about the risks of welding.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=Sb2&ei=QVk5SrqPHtiNjAeu3KmIBQ&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=carcinogenic+flux+welding&spell=1

Mind you if you dont do it day in day out the risks are likley to be small, but id be careful about that white powder on your helmet (no sniggering at the back)

[lee celtic]

It's only when I'm welding right over the work peice and it's on the outside of the mask  :lol:

[landroverkeith]

Yeah, both me tips are 1.0mm so thats fine!

   u have two tips ??