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If I was an MP
boss:
--- Quote from: Frankie-Boy on May 13, 2009, 09:23:43 ---
The trouble with not voting is that however hard you try you cannot complain about whoever gets in, if you don't vote then you are just letting any joker get in, I know, I know they're all jokers really but you gotta try and pick the best of the bunch. ;) :D :D
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well said that man!
if you dont vote then you give up your right to moan :D
prime example of this was last night when i was at hospital, waiting in the fracture clinic for a new cast.....like hospitals do they were running late. the woman behind me was just looking for something to moan about "ahhh i hate the simpsons" or "theres never anything good to read" which is fine, what ever im not going to cause a fuss but then she said "this wouldnt be tolirated at a bupa hospital" ....where the hell does she get off saying that! she obviously doesnt pay to got to a bupa hospital so she cant comment on how the two differ in that way. she then used that old gem "i pay my taxes, i shouldnt be kept waiting like this"
your right you do but so do i and so does evereybody else even the doctors and nurses working at adenbrooks. so how does that give you prioroty over anyone else?! then i was amazed as i heard another one........"you know it because of where i comefrom that there keeping us waiting" i look around and i see a muslim woman in her black ninja suite thing (apolagies i know not what its called) i had been waiting there longer! arghhhh anger!
i say we vote in a government who keeps bored literate ninja muslim woman entertained and at the front of the que at NHS hospitals at all times! :thumbup:
SteveGoodz:
--- Quote from: Lyndsey731 on May 13, 2009, 09:35:28 ---Frank
Normally I would agree with you but I have to point out that NOBODY voted for our current Prime Minister, what sort of democracy is that I ask?
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It's the best sort of democracy. The alternative is the American system where the electorate vote for a President separately from the two houses of legislature ... and look where that gets them! You end up with Presidents like Nixon (dishonest), Reagan (failed actor), Clinton (corrupt) and George W Bush (illiterate and ineffective). The jury is still out on Obama.
No-one votes for the Prime Minister at a General Election - you cast your vote for the local candidate of a national party. For most people that means a vote for the party that best meets your expectations and aspirations. The elevation of an MP to the position of PM has always been a matter for the party in power never the electorate.
Frankie-Boy:
None of us votes for any Prime Minister, we get what the winning lot have at the top at the time or whoever they shove into the limelight in the event of the PM doing a runner. ;)
Personally and this might cause a few raised eyebrows, I think it should be compulsory to vote in any elections, that would be one sure way of getting a fairer result and you have used your democratic right and if your chosen nominee doesn't get in, then you'd have the right to moan about it, but it'll never happen - some of us will keep voting and hoping but loads of people will say " I can't be bothered" and again they'll be the ones moaning about the government.
For pity's sake VOTE and try and change things.
Lyndsey731:
Steve/Frank
I don't think it's as black and white as that (whilst I don't disagree with the accuracy of your comment) People do vote for a Prime Minister although be it indirectly. Whilst I accept that this is a personal view I wouldn't vote for the local candidate if his views were similar to mine but differed from the PM's, because at the end of the day all he/she does is what they are told from the top, the PM has the final say on policy. I think people vote for the person as much as the policy and my point was simply that nobody voted for a Labour Party with Gordon Brown at the Helm.
As for voting I agree with you Frank, vote and change things, you have the right use it! the problem being that as we are a democracy it would appear that for some unknown reason the majority are happy the way things are (mind you the alternatives don't seem exceptionaly appealing sometimes)
gnasha:
they all lie to get voted in then say they need to sort out what the last lot done then just copy what they done and raise taxes and try to keep everyone on side by putting out more lies you could vote in a compleatly new party and they would still fall into the old party's routines with more and more comeing out about mp's less and less are trusting them anyway
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