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Somethings wrong, 200TDi PLEASE

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zulublue:
Hi All,

Sorry for the delay in replying, I have been fitting the roll cage.

Dan, it is a Different block than the one I hydrolocked, although the turbo it the same, I have checked the movement on the turbo fan and it's about 0.3mm the turbo whistles up OK, the engine is defiantly getting worse but I have not had chance to get the head off yet, (think I'm putting it off as it's my first time) But I did notice something on Saturday, I drove it to where I was fitting the cage only about 3 mile, took it very steady, but when I got there and turned the engine off there was smoke coming out of the exhaust for about 3 minutes after switch off, it looked like someone had put a fag in the end, would this point to the head gasket and cross contamination when the exhaust manifold should be closed but is open due to it getting in to another pot? weird really as she fires up at a flick even with no glowplug time.

extreme90:

--- Quote from: davidlandy on January 25, 2009, 18:35:54 ---
--- Quote from: extreme90 on January 25, 2009, 17:40:13 ---he would have a perminant derv nock if the washer's were flattend
is this the same engine that got hydro'd ?


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hi m8,
interested in this - I reused some washers when i replaced my injectors and it was noiser afterwards - is this the cuase do you think?

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dave do you get a slight weep surfacing up side of the injector, or does it look dampish ?
RRB, as far as im aware they aint sided, as the little sealing rib will seal on either mating face

zulu, i really would get a compression test done on it :-k
have you had the coolant co2 tested at all ? does it breath excessive aswel ?
where abouts exactly are you, i should have a free weekend next weekend, so if your still in the doo doo i can have a ride down with a few gadgets and have a squint with you  :-.
lemme no
dan
p.s do you have that 8274 still ?

zulublue:

--- Quote from: davidlandy on January 25, 2009, 18:35:54 ---
--- Quote from: extreme90 on January 25, 2009, 17:40:13 ---he would have a perminant derv nock if the washer's were flattend
is this the same engine that got hydro'd ?


--- End quote ---

hi m8,
interested in this - I reused some washers when i replaced my injectors and it was noiser afterwards - is this the cuase do you think?

--- End quote ---

This just created a gulp moment, when I moved the injectors around to test them I didn't notice any washers  :-> have I missed something here????

Dan, I have had no terst done yet, on that tomorrow if I can get it there!!!! Im in North Warwickshire / Birmingham J4 of M6, still go the 8274 drum but it is 3" not the 2" you were looking for.

extreme90:

--- Quote from: zulublue on January 26, 2009, 18:18:02 ---
--- Quote from: davidlandy on January 25, 2009, 18:35:54 ---
--- Quote from: extreme90 on January 25, 2009, 17:40:13 ---he would have a perminant derv nock if the washer's were flattend
is this the same engine that got hydro'd ?


--- End quote ---

hi m8,
interested in this - I reused some washers when i replaced my injectors and it was noiser afterwards - is this the cuase do you think?

--- End quote ---

This just created a gulp moment, when I moved the injectors around to test them I didn't notice any washers  :-> have I missed something here????

Dan, I have had no terst done yet, on that tomorrow if I can get it there!!!! Im in North Warwickshire / Birmingham J4 of M6, still go the 8274 drum but it is 3" not the 2" you were looking for.

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hmm [!Expletive Deleted!]

as to the engine, they usually get stuck to either the head or injector.....but in the many injectors ive changed, i aint had one stick to the head yet , just whip them out and double check, its usually the most silliest of things that go wrong
dan

nellyscossy:

--- Quote from: zulublue on January 23, 2009, 16:36:40 ---Hi all, yes me again here is today's question / findings.

I managed to get some time to go and swap the injectors round, before I did I ran the engine again to see if anything had changed, the loosening of injector 3 still made no difference but loosening injector 4 did, as well as 1 & 2, so I removed injector 1 and 3 and swapped them around, I also changed the spill rail pipe as this was old and brittle, I starter her up again and redid the test it was exactly the same, I went through a sequence of undoing all the tops of the injectors one by one and only number 3 made no difference to the running of the engine apart from when I released it the smoke / steam died down, when i tightened it back up it started again, repeating this on the other injectors made no difference. (today the engine did seem to respond more and was not as lumpy).

I decided to go for a little run only a couple of miles, the smoke does die down when this is done as stated before, I could hear a knocking noise coming from the engine especially under load, I slowed down put it in to 4th and hit the gas the noise got louder, when I got back I tried it on the drive and went to move off in 3rd, the same again.

So now im back a step, and still wondering what is wrong I think a compression check will have to be done.

Does what I have said above reconfirm or change anyones thoughts

Mark - frustrated :(

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loosening of the injector pipes dosent work like that because when you crack off one the pressure to all the others drops too so the engine note will change in any case

apart from compression testing the way i have found a missfire was to remove the exhaust manifold and fire up for a very short (and very loud) while....smoke comes from the faulty cylinder port

i used to use this method on the transit 2.5 di engines

i had a problem like this with my landyand i had water in the diesel

i had to drain the fuel system and re fill and bleed took ages to fire her up again but it cured the prob

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