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Suvvey:
Just for a laugh follow this link and have a read of the nice little mission statements -sound like a good bunch of guys ;)- then try typing 'offroad' into the search bar at the top of the page and read some of the hits it comes up with.

http://www.ramblers.org.uk/campaigns/campaign_home.htm

Now go take a shower to get rid of that dirty feeling you have for straying into their realm and then post your thoughts :twisted:

Suvvey:
I was especially worried about this one

http://www.ramblers.org.uk/news/archive/2004/greenlanesshropshire.htm

I realise it's old but anyone know who they are pointing the finger at in this? I'm especially interested what make of winch was used to rip out a 200yr old tree as that is a pretty impressive theat :?

gtomo2:
This could be good to throw at them if they have a go at you on a green lane "

The Ramblers' Association campaigns to open up all public rights of way in England and Wales and to ensure that the existing rights of way network is protected, as part of our national heritage, and is available for everyone to use.

And its stright from there web site. So by everyone they must mean us as well.

MuddyDiscoveryJay:
I couldn't agree more, they are a very contradictary breed of people. If a 200 year old tree was ripped from the ground then maybe the roots were rotten? If a tree has rotten roots does it not become unstable and liable to fall down? Heaven forbid if a bobble hat got squashed. :twisted: As regards to ground clearance and hedge cutting I think we do a service by widening the lane and making it more enjoyable for everyone. Im sure people only see the worst in us. If they were to join one of out groups they would have fun and find out that us offroaders are a fun loving and careful community. Especially the Mud Club. If they are worried about pollution then i would love to see how much my 30-35mpg (tweaked) 200 tdi kicks out at the speed limit for the lanes which is 12mph. MDJ.

Suvvey:
One of the results that I read explained that 'recreational offroaders' have the right to use byways due to a loophole in the law and that these were only intended for use by horse and cart.
Hmmm well I believe it has been proven that a four wheel drive vehicle actually applies less pressure per square inch than a horse or cart. As long as it is driven in a proper manner and follows the voluntary guidelines it will leave far less of a footprint than a horse or a cart. This can be seen on a lane less than a mile from my home. The lane is regularly used by horse riders as it is near a large stables and horse sanctuary. This results in the middle of the lane becoming quite badly churned up in places but where the vehicular traffic makes contact with the ground it actually leaves walkable flattened paths through areas that would otherwise be rendered unpassable through the horse use.
Now I am not for one moment saying that horses should be stopped from using this or any right of way, infact I am right behind the ramblers association with their aim to keep open rights of way even if they are just footpaths as believe it or not I am actually the proud owner of a pair of size 9 feet and enjoy a good walk out with the dog along old ROWs (did 8 miles just today  :cool:).
It is a shame that their is no photographical evidance of just how bad these byways used to become when under regular use by the horse and carts that they were originally intended. I am sure most were not a pretty sight at all in the winter.
I happen to believe that ALL byways should be kept, maintained, and used for their intended use.
Also the phrase 'recreational offroaders' seems to be a firm favourite amongst the RA. As if the fact that people are using their vehicle for recreational use somehow means they have less right than others to use these ROWs. Now let me think, what is the definition of the word 'rambler'?............

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