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zebidee:
Jacqui Smith ... what a waste of space.

This time it's an enormous database of all emails sent, websites visited & mobile phones used.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7671046.stm

What has happened to Home Secretaries? Do they get given a Gestapo trench coat, hat and Herr Flick glasses when they get assigned the post or something?

Maybe they're all issued the basque & suspenders to wear under their normal uniform?

How about our public servants going back to being exactly that and not pretending to be our public masters?

Z~

Thrasher:
So....did they used to open our mail? Listen to our landline conversations?

Hmmmmmmmm

Another excuse to use technology to cripple us.

Eeyore:

--- Quote from: Thrasher on October 16, 2008, 14:12:22 ---So....did they used to open our mail? Listen to our landline conversations?

Hmmmmmmmm

Another excuse to use technology to cripple us.

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Another excuse to legalise what already happens......

datalas:
A good summary I found ...


--- Quote ---Orwellian down to the doublespeak:


--- Quote ---There are no plans for an enormous database which will contain the content of your emails, the texts that you send or the chats you have on the phone or online.

--- End quote ---

Translation: We might build one now, we might build one later. We might already be building one, just without a plan.

See? No lies, just no plans!


--- Quote ---Nor are we going to give local authorities the power to trawl through such a database in the interest of investigating lower level criminality under the spurious cover of counter terrorist legislation.

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In other words: There's going to be a database, but only available to those sufficiently high up in the government. Not to local authorities. What a relief!

If you think I'm being too harsh, read again. If there's not going to be such a database, why would she go on to talk about who should have or not have access to such a database?

Some of the commentary on the speech is at least as disturbing as the speech itself:


--- Quote ---The raw idea of simply handing over all this information to any government, however benign, and sticking it in an electronic warehouse is an awful idea if there are not very strict controls about it.

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How'd you fall this far, Britain?

So, to translate: It's actually a fine idea, so long as there are sufficiently strict controls. I wonder who gets to decide how strict those controls should be.

And who controls the controllers, so to speak?

More of the same:


--- Quote ---The government must present convincing justification for such an exponential increase in the powers of the state.

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Again: A giant database of every email ever sent, from now till forever, in Britain, is alright so long as there's sufficient justification.

At least someone has the balls to take a stand:


--- Quote ---These proposals are incompatible with a free country and a free people.

--- End quote ---
Amen.

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zebidee:

--- Quote from: datalas on October 16, 2008, 14:15:48 ---A good summary I found ...


--- Quote ---Orwellian down to the doublespeak:


--- Quote ---There are no plans for an enormous database which will contain the content of your emails, the texts that you send or the chats you have on the phone or online.

--- End quote ---

Translation: We might build one now, we might build one later. We might already be building one, just without a plan.

See? No lies, just no plans!

...

--- End quote ---

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Someone's either been reading SlashDot or someone on SlashDot has nicked it from elsewhere :-)

Z~

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