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Towing frames
redhand:
--- Quote from: henryandlesley on September 09, 2008, 19:12:13 ---ok then how many of us have used an aframe/towing dolly rope or what ever I know for one it will be nearly all of us i for one has used aframes towing dollies ropes chains towing bars you name it i might have tried so come on then be honest about it how many has used something what they should not have like for towing.
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But all the above are still legal to use. If used to recover a broken down vehicle to a place of safety. Like Eeyore says I'm not sure what the point is, that you are trying to make.
redhand:
--- Quote from: henryandlesley on September 09, 2008, 21:15:52 ---ok then if a frames are illegal why can we still buy them
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because it isn't illegal to use an Aframe
--- Quote ---same as a aframe is made for the sj which is 750kg which is in the limit mark for non braking aframe and people who has past their test after jan97 can tow one
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But you can't! because all the wheels on a trailer if fitted with brakes, have to work and meet the regs for trailer brakes attach an Aframe to a car and it becomes classed as a trailer. I suggest you read Vosa's legal position as post above. You obviously have misunderstood what has been posted. I don't know where you got the last bit of info from but it is seriously flawed.
Tommo:
"When an "A" frame is attached to a vehicle (e.g. a motor car) and towed by a motor vehicle (e.g. motorhome) we believe the "A" frame and car become a single unit and as such are classified in legislation as a trailer."
So, if you have a car that weighs under 750KG's, attach an a frame, and make sure it meets trailer legislation and lighting regs (ie trailer board) and the towing vehicle weighs more than 1500kgs (double the towing weight) then you are ok. The gross weight of the car is not relevant because it is now classed as a trailer, and it has no brakes, so by default its MAM is 750kgs. It dosent need to have tax and test because its classed as a trailer.
No doubt there will be somthing in the trailer regulations to catch you out if you look hard enough.
ben_haynes:
--- Quote from: henryandlesley on September 09, 2008, 21:15:52 ---ok then if a frames are illegal why can we still buy them same as a aframe is made for the sj which is 750kg which is in the limit mark for non braking aframe and people who has past their test after jan97 can tow one
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it is illegal to tow a SJ on an unbraked A frame for pay and Play but if it brakes down you can recover to place of safety or repair,
an SJ may have a kerb weight of less than 750KG but i assume it is over the Maximum (gross) weight , as i know a Seicento and Cinquecento are 450KG kerb but 800KG gross and i am possitive an SJ weighs more than the fiat
ben_haynes:
--- Quote from: henryandlesley on September 09, 2008, 22:42:48 ---a vitara what i scrapped a few months ago weighed in at 850kgs and a sj is alot less than them so if i dont use a aframe on my sj but put it in the back of my tipper where do i stand with it as i need to make an extention for it to fit as my transit is only 8ft buck and the sj is 10 ft long and my transit is a crew cab fully insured for carrying my own goods and goods in transit
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it will be like a flat bed, the SJ does not have any wheels on the road so is not needed to be legal,
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