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clbarclay:
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Im sure I could have got it out without the press, but it didn't want to come out easily with a hammer and having a press to hand, I wasn't in a mood to play mess about with it.
The cause of the problem would appear to be partly the shape of the bushes, the parts which stick out of the sides of the panhard rod are rather bulky. It would appear that the bolt was clamping as much on theses as it was the tube so it didn't grip the tube properly. Also the deflex crush tubes I've removed were all deformed to some extent where they touched against the bracket. I haven't had the need to remove a Polybush to compare, but I wounder if the grade of steel used as not strong enough either.


Reggieroo
I expect you can already guess with my choice would be of the 2 makes. But this may help explain it a little better.

The orange bushes are deflex, the blue one is a genuine Polybush comfort and the balck ones are standard rubber. All are unused. IIRC these are trailing arm to axle bushes.

Not the clearest of picts and not the worst of the deflex bushes either, but you can seen the surface finish on the Polybush is much better.


The panhard rod bushes were very much like these, not the excess bulk that will stick out of the bush on the deflex.


These were setup with the crush tube flush with the end of the bush on one side. The crush tube on the Polybush sticks out about 1mm, where as the deflex crush tube is shorter than the bush by 3mm.


This may also explain the deformed ends of the crushtubes on the deflex bushe I removed. the Polybush crush tube has a 2mm bigger OD.



And these are of the bushes for the top of the rear dampers.

Fitted with standard rubber bushes this is about 44mm wide


And using the deflex, its increased 58mm wide :lol: The cruch tube though for the deflex is 40mm wide.


At the end of the day its your money and your decision.

Reggieroo:
clbarclay 

What about ride quality with the deflex, polybush comfort & standard, is there much difference on the road & off road between the three?

clbarclay:
Job to say. I haven't had a direct comparison (ie before and after) on any of the RRC.

I reckon the best for smoothness and road holding was the 2.5VM fitted with polybush blue and HD lift springs. I recon the stiffer springs have as much to do with the road holding as anyhting else.

Again off road I don't have a definative before/after experiance, but the with the deflex I could have fitted shorter dampers without reducing articulation, where as know on rubber bushes it is well matched to the +5" dampers its fitted with. The radisu arm to axle bushes do look very squished on full articulation.

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