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Legality of my car!!
Rich_P:
What I think has happened is that the big ARB style metal type ones are no longer legal to be bought brand new in the UK, but these flimsy plastic ones are still legal. Almost defies the point of having them in the first place if they're flimsy rubbery stuff in my opinion. :roll:
glaggs:
noisy exhausts etc (for which there is no legal DB level I am aware of)
There is, but I don't recall what it is. That said some exhausts that sound loud pass a noise emissions test that a family car wouldn't
This is one area where the MOT and SVA differ. Currently for any vehicle to pass SVA inspection it has to pass an exhaust noise test. I believe (but not 100%) that the current limit is 89db. For MOT urposses it is up to the tester to decide if the exhaust note is too loud. Up until a few years ago the exhaust had to carry a ' BS Kite' mark but that was dropped I believe when Europe decided not to recognise it. So now its down to the guy who tests it to make the decission as to if the exhaust is too loud or not.
Lord Shagg-Pyle:
--- Quote from: Mud_Medic on August 25, 2008, 02:06:56 ---Lord Shagg
I am sure this has been done to death round here, but i can't find any info.
Last year there was a big thing that "Bull bars kill pedestrians and the EEC are banning them."
What is the truth of the matter?
Thanks
Ed
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We have had no directive in relation to Bull bars, but I will 'assume' (which is something I don't like doing!) that if something was to happen with a vehicle fitted with a bullbar, that that would be noted in any subsequent reports and inferrence may be drawn.
In all fairness, I've never had a bull bar on any of my landys, as I don't personally have the need for one.
As for them killing pedestrians as is often shouted at in the Press, in nearly 18 years of being in the Job, I can probably count on one hand how many prangs I've been to that have involved 4x4's. The vast majority have involved 'normal' cars, usually as a result of bad driving and rarely as a result of mechanical defects
I'll keep my ears open in relation to anything coming through.
Disco Matt:
--- Quote from: Rich_P on August 25, 2008, 02:31:24 ---What I think has happened is that the big ARB style metal type ones are no longer legal to be bought brand new in the UK, but these flimsy plastic ones are still legal. Almost defies the point of having them in the first place if they're flimsy rubbery stuff in my opinion. :roll:
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That's what I understood too - new ones have to meet various standards which pretty much ensure they're the rubbery type. There may be a get-out for parts fitted to older vehicles as you still seem to be able to buy the steel type "A" bars for example.
Given they mostly seem to sell to urban 4x4s wanting to look tough and be able to park by ear I suspect the rubber ones are probably more use! I know the standard Disco one is a liability as it makes your approach angle far worse and adds a load of extra weight on the nose.
G30RGE:
There is an EC directive for manufacture & sale of 'non complient' front bars
here's a link to a copy of the directive
As far as I understand - it is illegal to manufacture or sell a non-compliant bar but not illegal for an owner to fit one.
Most, if not all, suppliers have stopped selling metal A bars
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