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The best way to stop most road deaths
JumboBeef:
--- Quote from: Boddle on July 14, 2008, 08:45:48 --- No Speed itself doesn't kill it's Irresponsible behavior of the driver behind of the wheel driving at stupid speeds,
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I disagree.
You are travelling down an empty motorway and you have a blow out/fox runs across in front of you/there is something in the road. If you are travelling at 60mph you have a damn sight more chance of controlling it and avoiding a crash than you do at 100mph (no matter how good you are).
An irresponsible driver at 20mph in an urban area is going to kill less people than an irresponsible driver at 40mph. Speed and driving like a nutter are two different things: the difference is speed can make a normally good driver a killer.
Speed killed my friend and her daughter: if the other car hadn't been speeding, it wouldn't have lost control on that bend, end of story.
redhand:
--- Quote from: JumboBeef on July 14, 2008, 10:00:49 ---
--- Quote from: Boddle on July 14, 2008, 08:45:48 --- No Speed itself doesn't kill it's Irresponsible behavior of the driver behind of the wheel driving at stupid speeds,
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I disagree.
You are travelling down an empty motorway and you have a blow out/fox runs across in front of you/there is something in the road. If you are travelling at 60mph you have a damn sight more chance of controlling it and avoiding a crash than you do at 100mph (no matter how good you are).
An irresponsible driver at 20mph in an urban area is going to kill less people than an irresponsible driver at 40mph. Speed and driving like a nutter are two different things: the difference is speed can make a normally good driver a killer.
Speed killed my friend and her daughter: if the other car hadn't been speeding, it wouldn't have lost control on that bend, end of story.
Rubbish the driver was an idiot but he could have been doing anyone of a dozen different things that would have caused the accident. from tuning his radio in to talking on the phone to reading a map. I followed an idiot up the m56 at 65mph recently she was wandering all over the inside and middle lane of the motorway and forcing everyone to get out of the way. The reason for this erratic driving??, she was talking on her mobile whilst applying her makeup using the rearveiw mirror as a vanity mirror.
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Wireless:
Just a tad bit insensitive regarding Boddle's loss me thinks.
You can't catch the idiots, unless you have a big brother state with a camera on each corner (maybe we're getting somewhere near), but you can enforce speed limits in certain high risk areas to cater for the idiots in society.
Unless you've picked up the broken bodies yourself, many times, you're in no position to make sweeping statements.
Speed Kills.
JumboBeef:
--- Quote from: redhand on July 14, 2008, 10:55:23 ---Rubbish the driver was an idiot but he could have been doing anyone of a dozen different things that would have caused the accident.
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The police stated it was SPEED which caused the crash. The other driver was done (and sent down) for it. It all went through Court and the COURTS and the POLICE stated it was EXCESSIVE SPEED which caused the other driver to lose control on the bend: he wasn't doing anything else, his car was legal and well looked after, he just was going too DAMN FAST.
Trust me: SPEED KILLS!
mike142sl:
--- Quote from: JumboBeef on July 14, 2008, 10:00:49 ---You are travelling down an empty motorway and you have a blow out/fox runs across in front of you/there is something in the road. If you are travelling at 60mph you have a damn sight more chance of controlling it and avoiding a crash than you do at 100mph (no matter how good you are).
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This is exactly the point when the phrase SPEED KILLS is used. Arguing that 1mph can kill is missing the point entirely and statements like
--- Quote ---Most accident that kill don't involve speed just poor judgement on the behalf of the driver
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need backing up.
FACT is the faster you are moving the less time you have to respond, just look at how far down the road you travel when braking from different speeds - and that's when you are expecting to have to brake. Non of us can expect the unexpected but FACT is you have a far better chance of responding at lower speeds - it's probably why the speed limits are what they are and mostly where they are.
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