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Arb diff lock or detroit locker?
Disco Matt:
--- Quote from: david p on July 01, 2008, 22:44:41 ---
fiddle brakes would be a cheap as to locking a spinning wheel on the back.
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IIRC fiddle brakes are illegal on road anyway? Don't think you really want to have to trailer it everywhere and stick to private sites!
boss:
fiddle breaks are not road legal as you have to have the fiddle breaks plumbed into the back and the foot petal does the front......I'm not going there!
as for lockers, i would go with the propper locker, the viscous units will never be as good as a true locking diff. sorry to say i think stev-o needs to think about what he is saying.....again! it all depends on the application both are as good as each other if used correctly. if you say that your diffs are on there way out then another alternative is diff pegging from ashcroft. they uprate all the materials and peg the crown wheel which improves the performance of the unit and also makes it last longer. also if you are looking at difflocks you will need uprated shafts, with all lockers in there is a possibility that only 1 wheel has traction therefor all power/torque is sent through that wheel.......causing havoc with shafts. ARB seem to be the thing people go for but i have seen a few posts here and there about how [!Expletive Deleted!] they are and the mcnamara ones are better.....don't know if its true its just what i hear(*read*) maxidrive i believe are doing good deals on shafts and locker kits. i hear there also pretty straightforward to fit. if i were you i would Peg the diffs and invest in a winch.....doesn't have to be a good one at the moment because when the time comes for you to need a good one( if you do need a good one ignore what i just said) then you can put the cheaper one in the back. hope that has helped.....i am full of more useless information if needed.
clbarclay:
--- Quote from: boss on July 02, 2008, 16:18:32 ---fiddle breaks are not road legal as you have to have the fiddle breaks plumbed into the back and the foot petal does the front......I'm not going there!
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Not sure about the legality side of it but the typical plumbing for fiddle brakes is to have all 4 brakes worked of the foot peddle as per normal but with the brake line to the rear going to the fiddle brake master cylinders (MC) and 2 seperate brake lines from the fiddle brake MC to the brakes. During normal braking the the fiddle barke MCs just act as a T piece allowing fluid to flow freely to the brakes (like the T piece above the rear diff on land rovers). When a fiddle brake is operated, the fiddle brake MC inlet from the main MC is closed off, traping the fluid and as you continue to pull on the leaver, preasurising the trapped fluid which works the individual brake. Release the fiddle brake, the inlet valve opens again and the brake is reconnected to the foot peddal.
boss:
ah i was told that you couldn't do that because all it would do is push the fluid into the reservoir
mentalmoshio sophs V8i:
--- Quote from: boss on July 02, 2008, 16:18:32 ---fiddle breaks are not road legal as you have to have the fiddle breaks plumbed into the back and the foot petal does the front......I'm not going there!
as for lockers, i would go with the propper locker, the viscous units will never be as good as a true locking diff. sorry to say i think stev-o needs to think about what he is saying.....again! it all depends on the application both are as good as each other if used correctly. if you say that your diffs are on there way out then another alternative is diff pegging from ashcroft. they uprate all the materials and peg the crown wheel which improves the performance of the unit and also makes it last longer. also if you are looking at difflocks you will need uprated shafts, with all lockers in there is a possibility that only 1 wheel has traction therefor all power/torque is sent through that wheel.......causing havoc with shafts. ARB seem to be the thing people go for but i have seen a few posts here and there about how [!Expletive Deleted!] they are and the mcnamara ones are better.....don't know if its true its just what i hear(*read*) maxidrive i believe are doing good deals on shafts and locker kits. i hear there also pretty straightforward to fit. if i were you i would Peg the diffs and invest in a winch.....doesn't have to be a good one at the moment because when the time comes for you to need a good one( if you do need a good one ignore what i just said) then you can put the cheaper one in the back. hope that has helped.....i am full of more useless information if needed.
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top facts again boss learning alot from u :)
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