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Breakdown - ? Turbo - HELP!!!!!

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cubbie:
yep.. there was a big recall issue and I have found some guidance on how to suss that out :

http://www.landroverclub.net/Club/HTML/300TDi_timing_belt.htm

Clearly, I'm checking this out, just to make sure, but the belt was changed when I bought it, as per Ser3J's entry earlier.

But!  From a few conversations, and trying to start it again today, and listening to how it sounds a bit more  closely, it is definitely trying to start, there's the ticking noise, then the system seems to be trying to feed in fuel/air, but seems to be missing the final 'bit' to make it fire up...  As a result, I am coming round to the idea that the problem could be on the fuel side.  I already checked there is pressure, and that there doesn't seem to be air in the fuel lines.  However, apparently, there is a possibility that there is an issue with the fuel injector assembly...maybe as simple as some loose bolts?  The other option I was wondering about is the chance that water could have got into the fuel - I was thinking that this might explain the white, rather than black, smoke experienced when it broke down?

Am I completely heading off in the wrong direction?

I'm assuming the only way to check this is to drain the fuel completely, then try with some fresh diesel?  The other thing I am then thinking is that if it is that, then where has the water come from - that would be a more worrying prospect, methinks, and I'm guessing I would need to check all the various fuel feeds - is there anywhere in particular that could be prone, ie where the system could ingest water somehow?

Thanks for ongoing tips and stuff!

Landy Andy:
Can you not run hose from a jerry can to pump?

Andy

cubbie:
well, its update time...

Took the fuel filter apart, checked it, replaced it, got the same old problem when trying to start him up - ie it didn't!

Gonna get the battery checked as I don't think its in good nick and that won't be helping, but that's still not going to solve the original problem...

So I'm right back to the possible belt issue, so that will be the next task...

Xtremeteam:
when i looked at it the tbelt was still connected & turning the Inj pump as it should do, however it may have stripped a few teeth & thus be out of timing which after a bit of though may be the case,

if you want me to i can toddle up with the disco & some tools & see about stripping the front of the engine & check the belt, wont be till next week as im away at manby thursday onwards till monday

Mike

cubbie:
Well, I've been out in the sunshine doing a few more diagnostics, and I think I have found the problem, if not the cause...

Took the inspection cover off, intending to turn the engine over (breaker bar at the ready - I've been buying BIG tools!  :shocked: ) to check the rockers.  However, on closer inspection I found that 5/8 of the push rods are bent, some pretty badly too.  Pics to follow...
Also in the well area around them, they had these little 'cap' guys - again, pics to follow...

So, I checked the manual, and it seems to indicate that this sort of thing is due to the gasket going.  (eek - I have had 3 previous vehicles with this and it was the fault I dreaded most.  Oddly enough - never got the rapid temperature rise I saw with the others)
However, the timing belt warning info I found says that bent pushrods are a symptom, so perhaps it could just be that alone?

Could I have ended up with both?   [-o<

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