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Re: SEAT BELT ON OR OFF WHEN OFF ROADING VOTE NOW !!
« Reply #30 on: May 01, 2008, 23:04:36 »
in fairness it was a woman driver  :evil:  :grin:

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Re: SEAT BELT ON OR OFF WHEN OFF ROADING VOTE NOW !!
« Reply #31 on: May 01, 2008, 23:04:52 »
Exactly, you never know!

I do all the time, laning or whatever.
It's part of our events supplemetary regs.
No belts, no drive!!
And that's even if it was built without the need for them. Seen too many rolls to think otherwise, even at the slow speeds we use.
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Re: SEAT BELT ON OR OFF WHEN OFF ROADING VOTE NOW !!
« Reply #32 on: May 01, 2008, 23:05:41 »
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« Reply #33 on: May 01, 2008, 23:06:59 »
 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: they will never catch me, with driving like that anyway :dance: :dance:

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Re: SEAT BELT ON OR OFF WHEN OFF ROADING VOTE NOW !!
« Reply #34 on: May 01, 2008, 23:09:00 »
You have to sleep sometime :lol: :lol: bobit
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Re: SEAT BELT ON OR OFF WHEN OFF ROADING VOTE NOW !!
« Reply #35 on: May 02, 2008, 00:32:20 »
I put the shoulder part behind when I'm on pay and play sites. But am looking at harnesses, as I find normal seat belts can twisted your back if the ground is a bit rough. I'm a bit obsesive about wearing my seat belt, was drumed in as a child.

Although a quick query for the plods, is it legal for delivery or taxi drivers to not use their seat belts if they are doing lots of short trips. Which require them to exit the vehicle at every stop?

Delivery drivers must wear seat belts (unless reversing) no matter how frequently they stop. White van man is one of the worst offenders for not wearing seat belts.
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Re: SEAT BELT ON OR OFF WHEN OFF ROADING VOTE NOW !!
« Reply #36 on: May 02, 2008, 01:26:53 »
I put the shoulder part behind when I'm on pay and play sites. But am looking at harnesses, as I find normal seat belts can twisted your back if the ground is a bit rough. I'm a bit obsesive about wearing my seat belt, was drumed in as a child.

Although a quick query for the plods, is it legal for delivery or taxi drivers to not use their seat belts if they are doing lots of short trips. Which require them to exit the vehicle at every stop?

Delivery drivers must wear seat belts (unless reversing) no matter how frequently they stop. White van man is one of the worst offenders for not wearing seat belts.

I though "milk men" we allowed not to wear them


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Re: SEAT BELT ON OR OFF WHEN OFF ROADING VOTE NOW !!
« Reply #37 on: May 02, 2008, 07:42:32 »
On All the time, If you go on to you tube there are some interesting "Arab Drifting accidents" where theare not wearing seat belts and get ejected from the car.
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Re: SEAT BELT ON OR OFF WHEN OFF ROADING VOTE NOW !!
« Reply #38 on: May 02, 2008, 09:14:16 »
Did loose a friend a few years back, was trown out of the cab of his truck when it fliped on it's side. He ended up with the cab crushing his pelvis, died 3 days later in hospital from his injuries. This was at slow speeds on a round-about. Would think the few seconds to put on/remove a seat belt would be better lost than the remaining years of your life.
Even if you think you have a very little chance of rolling off road, you should belt up. It doesn't take much for environment to suddenly change and catch you out.

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Re: SEAT BELT ON OR OFF WHEN OFF ROADING VOTE NOW !!
« Reply #39 on: May 02, 2008, 10:20:01 »
For those who think it's safe to "trundle" around and only belt up when it's something challenging...

I was on board when this happened to a driver in 1st gear low box... Had we not been wearing our seatbelts it would have been washing machine time. I was very comfortable to be hanging upside down when things came to a stop.









Also, I wonder what ths statistics are for seat belt buckles jamming in the event of an accident. Are we talking about something that is unlikely but has become an urban myth?

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Re: SEAT BELT ON OR OFF WHEN OFF ROADING VOTE NOW !!
« Reply #40 on: May 02, 2008, 10:57:36 »
Looks similar to Range Rover Red last year who had a similar roll. Just shows how easy it can be. I take it that's on an off road site somewhere?
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Re: SEAT BELT ON OR OFF WHEN OFF ROADING VOTE NOW !!
« Reply #41 on: May 02, 2008, 18:11:01 »
I put the shoulder part behind when I'm on pay and play sites. But am looking at harnesses, as I find normal seat belts can twisted your back if the ground is a bit rough. I'm a bit obsesive about wearing my seat belt, was drumed in as a child.

Although a quick query for the plods, is it legal for delivery or taxi drivers to not use their seat belts if they are doing lots of short trips. Which require them to exit the vehicle at every stop?

Delivery drivers must wear seat belts (unless reversing) no matter how frequently they stop. White van man is one of the worst offenders for not wearing seat belts.


Apologies to all, I forgot about the 2005 amendment to the seat belt rules, which has the following exemption from wearing a seat belt:

- [the driver of or a passenger in a goods vehicle on a journey not exceeding 50 metres undertaken for delivering or collecting anything], [Motor Vehicles (Wearing of Seat Belts) (Amendment) Regulations 2005 - 01/03/2005]

lso apologies to white van man, if he's reading this  :D


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Re: SEAT BELT ON OR OFF WHEN OFF ROADING VOTE NOW !!
« Reply #42 on: May 02, 2008, 18:15:39 »
For those who think it's safe to "trundle" around and only belt up when it's something challenging...

So what would you say about Agricultural machines?

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Re: SEAT BELT ON OR OFF WHEN OFF ROADING VOTE NOW !!
« Reply #43 on: May 02, 2008, 22:29:13 »
Looks similar to Range Rover Red last year who had a similar roll. Just shows how easy it can be. I take it that's on an off road site somewhere?

Thanks for reminding me :oops:  As it was a laning trip, I was wearing my seatbelt, including the brief time I spent upside down sliding down the hill on the roof.  I walked away with two bruises and I think I got one of those climbing out.

I would definitely say BELT UP.

PS: I haven't been laning since!
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Re: SEAT BELT ON OR OFF WHEN OFF ROADING VOTE NOW !!
« Reply #44 on: May 02, 2008, 22:43:42 »
I would definitely say seat belt on. Having been in a washing machine - sorry tractor with no seat belt (20 years ago) and rolling it down a hill it certainly hurts. I was baling straw and thought I could go where the combine had been :oops: obviously not and before you ask yes I was taking it steady

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Re: SEAT BELT ON OR OFF WHEN OFF ROADING VOTE NOW !!
« Reply #45 on: May 04, 2008, 10:42:04 »
You don't have to be in a roll or be travelling at speed to need a seat belt.   Try crossing a set of dried ruts at 10 mph with no seat belt...   your head will be bouncing off the roof and that's a very good way to get seriously hurt.

The only place you need to be when driving off-road is securely planted in your seat...    if you can't drive it properly when you are there... then maybe you need to have a rethink !!!!
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Re: SEAT BELT ON OR OFF WHEN OFF ROADING VOTE NOW !!
« Reply #46 on: May 04, 2008, 13:11:06 »
On for me. I have hit my head on ceiling before now over rough ground when not wearing belt and it hurts, never happened on same section when wearing belt. Across flat fields when opening gates, cba to wear it - judgment call.
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Re: SEAT BELT ON OR OFF WHEN OFF ROADING VOTE NOW !!
« Reply #47 on: May 04, 2008, 13:49:36 »
Personally i dont. Because im a big guy, and i bruise easily.

 But i always advise to wear it.

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Re: SEAT BELT ON OR OFF WHEN OFF ROADING VOTE NOW !!
« Reply #48 on: May 04, 2008, 20:06:14 »
Changed my mind a bit---- if driving in deep water leave it off ;)

but the rest of the time on... :D

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Re: SEAT BELT ON OR OFF WHEN OFF ROADING VOTE NOW !!
« Reply #49 on: May 04, 2008, 22:21:19 »
Changed my mind a bit---- if driving in deep water leave it off ;)

but the rest of the time on... :D



good point, never thought of that.


and im sure if you are the worlds worst off road driver you could roll it over whilst in enough water to drown you if you couldnt get out.
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Re: SEAT BELT ON OR OFF WHEN OFF ROADING VOTE NOW !!
« Reply #50 on: May 05, 2008, 12:34:04 »
What is the point of this thread?
To see how many idiot's there are........?
« Last Edit: May 05, 2008, 22:17:27 by Holyzeus »
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Re: SEAT BELT ON OR OFF WHEN OFF ROADING VOTE NOW !!
« Reply #51 on: May 05, 2008, 18:28:28 »
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What is the point of this tread?
To see how many idiot's there are........?

first question ....I guess it's to find out what others do and why..and to provoke debate .
second question .... you shouldn't call you club mates idiots!! well one maybe ;)
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Re: SEAT BELT ON OR OFF WHEN OFF ROADING VOTE NOW !!
« Reply #52 on: May 05, 2008, 19:08:02 »
I know of a couple of people who have been saved from SERIOUS INJURY having their belt ON !


It's all choice at the end of the day, like everything else...

If you have a ONE LIFE, LIVE IT sticker on your vehicle...you'd look a right <edit> WIT without a seatbelt on, if life's to be lived to the full !
« Last Edit: May 05, 2008, 22:17:51 by Paul »

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Re: SEAT BELT ON OR OFF WHEN OFF ROADING VOTE NOW !!
« Reply #53 on: May 05, 2008, 20:56:54 »
Personally i dont. Because im a big guy, and i bruise easily.

 But i always advise to wear it.

Same here, I find them so uncomfortable.
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Re: SEAT BELT ON OR OFF WHEN OFF ROADING VOTE NOW !!
« Reply #54 on: May 05, 2008, 22:09:18 »
Always on!!!
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Re: SEAT BELT ON OR OFF WHEN OFF ROADING VOTE NOW !!
« Reply #55 on: May 06, 2008, 17:02:54 »
Definitely ON unless in deep water or in a very narrow section with no risk of bumps.

If you can stay in the seat, your not going fast enough. 

On "track day" cars they reckon a set of 4 point harnesses and decent part of driving shoes is worth seconds a lap (and the most recommended mod) as you get better control as you are not chainging body position so can keep contol inputs (hands and feet) consistent. Thats definitley my experiance having done time on track in both 3 point inertia and 4 point harness setups in the same car, same seats.

 
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Re: SEAT BELT ON OR OFF WHEN OFF ROADING VOTE NOW !!
« Reply #56 on: May 06, 2008, 17:36:59 »
Defininately on.  Mate rolled his Triumph Herald in the sixties, before seatbelts were even fitted to most motors.  Tumble drier didn't do it justice. My first action after getting out of hospital was to get a set of belts for my Mini (which had the fittings, but not the belts :?)

Mind you, I carry a knife on my keyring, just in case I can't get the belt to release after an incident  :lol:

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