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Jas278:

--- Quote from: Thrasher on May 01, 2008, 21:15:21 ---If no-one used it would cost *more* - there was a bill for it and someone has to pay.

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Private sector built it their problem...........people that use it are merely fueling extra charges to the motorist..........

Dave:

--- Quote from: Thrasher on May 01, 2008, 21:15:21 ---If no-one used it would cost *more* - there was a bill for it and someone has to pay.

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To who if no-one used it  :?

Wireless:

--- Quote from: Skibum346 on May 02, 2008, 11:03:59 ---
--- Quote from: Wireless on May 02, 2008, 01:51:57 ---...often practising box overtakes at 90-100mph with the Police in similarly equipped vehicles, how else do you improve your driving skills?  Video games?

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Erm yes...

I'm currently designing training where we are using a motion platform simulator for an armoured engineer vehicle.

* It minimises wear, tear & maintenance costs
* is safer
* allows more realistic situations to be created
* allows students to learn through cause and effect
* allows students to try the same scenario using different techniques more than once
* Allows for consistent testing of multiple studentsCourse... it doesn't remove the need for real vehicle experience completely... but it does make the real vehicle time much more effective.

Skibum

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Mmm...could never happen in the NHS there's never any money, even for paying the staff.

If it did happen it'd be on a shoe string like everything else; so they'd buy a ZX Spectrum and some driving game from the late 80's and after half an hour they'd say you're trained...

S188:
Used to think it was great when I had a car caperble of over 80, I was still one of the slowest cars on the road.  That was when it was new so had novelty factor and the prices wern't so bad (couple of quid).  Now the prices are silly and I don't drive so fast.  It might be worth it if you need the time factor but its not economical purely on fuel saveing/toll ratio.

Used it in the landy once when the A38 had been closed and I was in a rush, stopped to remove the bonnet  mounted spare first thogh - not paying double for that!  Seemed a bit odd doing 65 in a diesel series 1 on the M6T!

The Syncro will never go anywhere near the M6 toll as it trips the hieght meter and would get charged an extorsion, £7 last I checked, probubly more now, dad got cought out like that in a VW T3 before (with a caravan too so it really cost a fortune) - just not worth it, if I don't want to use the M6 its the A5 every time.

Personly I think they should remove the speed limit from the M6 toll a la autobahn so it becomes a track day where you travel somewhere - then they could put the price up and it'd still be worth it.  People who don't want such speed around them could simply avoid it, and if people have a place to go wild they might not do so on normal motorways so often?

S188:

--- Quote from: Disco Matt on April 30, 2008, 20:49:02 ---The ones that annoy me are rigidly enforced 50mph limits around roadworks, where there isn't anyone working! Fair enough while people are on site but leaving the speed limit (and inevitable cameras) on to protect a bunch of traffic cones is ridiculous.

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According to a family member who's a civil engineer there is sometimes a valid resion for this, due to the concrete barears used.  Some are pretty tough and will stop anything going through them (safe for workforce) but if you hit them at higher speeds (above 50mph in some cases) they will make a serous mess of you so the limit has to be reduced while they are in place.  There are other types of concrete block barrear that look similar but can stand higher speeds apparently, though I'm sure there are spec differences taken into account when deploying them.

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