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mroxo:
Quite a few years ago there was a farm done on Salisbury plan for diesel and they spilt some on the A36 on their way home. Early hours of the next morning a guy on a motorbike on his way to work lost his life on a corner where the spill had happened. Fuel drums were found on a legit gypsy camp and a nissan cabstar that had red diesel all over it (even inside chassis)!!! BUT no charges ever brought coz the cabstar was still registered to the builder who sold it 3 years earlier and the fuzz had no evidence of the driver/passenger.
These people have been above the law for years and I dont think it will ever stop.

Lord Shagg-Pyle:

--- Quote from: mroxo on April 21, 2008, 21:19:05 ---These people have been above the law for years and I dont think it will ever stop.


--- End quote ---

Its not  that they are above the law, it is more the case that there are very few senior Police  officers with the balls to actually take them. Most grass roots Plod, and I include myself in those numbers, are quite happy to deal with those that cause damage, thieve etc etc, but the Oh So PC world that we now live in makes it more difficult.
The legislation is there, but now the Human Rights impact has to be considered. Surely the Human Rights of the victim counts for something?
As I've said before on previous topics, zero tolerance is an option, but it would mean just that. Zero tolerance for everything and everybody. It does work, it could be done, but the amount of resources needed to carry it out would be immense.
Would we get the support for it from the Public? Initially, yes, but as time went by, the support would drop away as the Liberty types get the high horses out.
The easiest way I've found of dealing with them, is to dip the tanks on the vehicles. If it comes up red, bingo. The wagons get seized, and they get the message to clear out. But that doesn't stop the problem, it just moves it on elsewhere.

mroxo:
2 years ago I was fishing on a well known lake in Ringwood and there were a bunch of gypos who moved onto water authority land beside the lake. Whilst there they nicked everything they could and went to every pub/resturant in the area and ran up a big tab and did a runner. They were shooting (air rifles) at the anglers and dog walkers having huge fires with loud music till the early hours and the fuzz seemed powerless to do anything. Eventually they just went and when the area was checked over nicked cars, motorbikes trailers and even a fag vending machine from the local pub were found. They only moved 20 miles or so away and started all over again but nothing seems to be done about them.
Now, If a few of us drove onto private land and started our own offroad site and trashed the place I am sure we would get locked up in no time.
I think the trouble is that people just dont work together anymore and are scared to stand up to the scum for fear of being penalised. Too much political <edit> these days.

Wireless:
When they are out theiving, take everything they own, caravan and all, to the local tip, it's a public service you'd be doing, or maybe just have a bit of fun with an old tank, and drive over everything they own.

Some people call me harsh, but I'm hard but fair, and the local council can collect the crushed caravans for scrap at minimum £120 a ton to offset the site clearance.

Everybody wins, no-one is hurt, and the pikeys are gone elsewhere, and just slightly discouraged from coming back.

redhand:
Great idea but why stop there? after all that council estate just round the corner must be full of junkies and joyriders why not burn all there houses down while they're out getting their daily fix. Then  theres's all those eastern europeans taking our jobs and hassling our women, and then we could start deporting anyone who looks a bit muslim after all one or two of them might be terrorists and if we get rid of em all we won't have to worry about whether we got the right one or not. Hey if we try hard enough we could resurrect the 4th reich in a couple of months.

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