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crazymac:
Started as a cub, moved to scouts then venture scouts, all in Glasgow. started as an assistant cub leader as part of an award I was working on (can't remember which one now?) and spent many weekends as a canoeing and sailing instructor at the Scout Activity Centre in Lochgoilhead between 84 and 88. (good times :dance:)

I had a brief flirtation back as a venture leader for the local troop here in Pembrokeshire about 15 years ago, but work dictated that I pack it in :sad:

Wireless:
The Scout Association are going to be a lot stricter with requiring that people receive the training for their role, and having it validated, including training required for a change of role, or in cases where Leaders already hold Wood Badges and years of experience, that they undertake the required 5 hours ongoing learning every year.

The 'old' system has changed several times in the past, so which 'old' system people refer to has to be taken with a pinch of salt, even the new Adult Training Scheme is under review, especially Child Protection.

A lot of this is a result of the ongoing review of the appointments process made by the Association (I think this is Insurance Company led myself), and changes in Child Protection and CRB that the Government are currently undertaking.

Part of this change has been the move to a credit card sized membership card, issued every year, but exactly what is finally decided is anyone's guess.

Anyone that can't be bothered to set aside the time for training should question whether they themselves would trust someone to look after their own children, to someone who hasn't received any training, has no intention to undertake training, hasn't the time for it, etc, etc, have never received Leader Training, and probably as a result isn't holding a Warrant, and therefore isn't properly insured, and neither are the children.  I'm not suggesting this applies to anyone on this thread.

When you turn these things around and look at them from a parents perspective, and child protection perspective, there really isn't any excuse, everyone has to do training, and moving from one group to another every two or three years might have been a way of avoiding the issue in the past, but I'm not quite so sure this will be allowed in the future under whatever system they introduce.  Although one might continue to assert that gaining a Wood Badge / Beads isn't important, deep down you know you think different, and in any event the Scout Association (led by their Insurer I'm sure) thinks it is important.

Ok, I've got off the soap box...

ben_haynes:

--- Quote from: Panda on March 29, 2008, 22:14:17 ---My Astar is mean and never gotten stuck at any scouting event. I didn't even get stuck when a range rover wouldn't temp it and i do belive that tom got stuck in his land rover  :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:


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yes but he did have a heavy trailer on that had 10" whiils and the jocky wheel did not clear the Aframe properly :roll: my polo didnt get stuck there, neither did toms Pug :oops: :doh: and neither did the icecream van :-k [-X :lol: but fat mans Disco did :lol:

Jimbo:
I've done the lot - cub, scout and venture scout. Then had a couple of years off, before becoming an ASL at a small village troop, I then moved back to my 'original' Group (where I'd been a cub and scout), and was ASL for many years, then 4 years ago I started the District Explorer Unit. We currently have 25 regular attendees, but due to the nature of Explorers I've actually got 35 on the books - three AESL's, and one knackered minibus. Got my 15 year long service award in 2005, and have just managed to complete my wood badge (training)  :oops:

Solihull products seem to be an important factor in our District - between the leaders we have a 110 (mine), D2 (mine), two 90's, a P38, two Freelanders and another 110............and as the Explorers get around to getting their 'first cars', at least two of them have bought Landrovers - so we must be doing something right !!

Skibum346:

--- Quote from: crazymac on March 29, 2008, 22:59:15 ---Started as a cub, moved to scouts then venture scouts, all in Glasgow. started as an assistant cub leader as part of an award I was working on (can't remember which one now?) and spent many weekends as a canoeing and sailing instructor at the Scout Activity Centre in Lochgoilhead between 84 and 88. (good times :dance:)

I had a brief flirtation back as a venture leader for the local troop here in Pembrokeshire about 15 years ago, but work dictated that I pack it in :sad:

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I've been a cub and a scout, both in Aberdeen, loved it and only left due to joining the army. Got my chief scouts awards and have helped out on the odd occasion with my old group.

On the downside, I would have been a cub a lot earlier in life, whne living in Easterhouse in Glasgow my father took me to the local group (in the prodestant school, which for me as a catholic child was confusing). I got to join in a couple of games after dad dropped me, made a few new friends, then, when the leader asked what school I went to... I was told I couldn't attend that group. Confusing for a young child and very dissappointing.

However, left that kind of attittude behind moving to Aberdeen and all was well.

Long live the organisation.

Skibum

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