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glaggs:
--- Quote from: CNorman on March 02, 2008, 19:56:02 ---My claims to transmissin damages come from mainly cars and fake 4x4's i.e. suzukis. I always was led to believe that you need to constantly rotate tyres (every 6K) not only to maintain tyre wear but more importantly because on a 4x4 you will run one set of axles a=faseter tha the others and that this was not good.
I always heard that you had to have the same type of tyrs due to rolling diameter and wear rates. After all, 6-8mm tread depth difference, entirelly possible on MT's would equate to a reasonable difference when m,ultiplied by m,iles.
Am i wrong on this one??
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Question 1 - why are suzuki's fake 4x4's
Question 2 - what do you do as regards swapping tyres around with direction specific tyres like Kuhmo's?
n if you think my Suzuki is a fake 4x4 I challenge you to follow me n not get stuck.
Although you are correct in saying that tyres of different size can cause transmission damage. If you fit tyre of a different rolling radius, even front to rear, then the diffs will be working overtime to allow the wheels to turn at different speeds. Even tyres with the same given size on the side wall may have a different rolling radius. Tyre manufaturing rules allow for up to a 10% varience in width and radius for a given size. But as long as the tyres are the same diameter then theres no problem fitting all terraines front and Mt's rear.
crazymac:
--- Quote from: glaggs on March 02, 2008, 23:47:53 ---
--- Quote from: CNorman on March 02, 2008, 19:56:02 ---My claims to transmissin damages come from mainly cars and fake 4x4's i.e. suzukis. I always was led to believe that you need to constantly rotate tyres (every 6K) not only to maintain tyre wear but more importantly because on a 4x4 you will run one set of axles a=faseter tha the others and that this was not good.
I always heard that you had to have the same type of tyrs due to rolling diameter and wear rates. After all, 6-8mm tread depth difference, entirelly possible on MT's would equate to a reasonable difference when m,ultiplied by m,iles.
Am i wrong on this one??
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Question 1 - why are suzuki's fake 4x4's
Question 2 - what do you do with direction specific tyres like Kuhmo's?
n if you think my Suzuki is a fake 4x4 I challenge you to follow me n not get stuck.
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well said! cut me in two and I'll read Landrover BUT I've seen suzuki's go places my Landy's won't! there is nothing fake about them.
stuvy:
--- Quote from: Disco Matt on March 02, 2008, 20:00:31 ---I think the transmission damage thing is more likely on vehicles like Freelanders or anything else with viscous couplings that bring 4wd in automatically. Older vehicles with mechanical centre diff lock (like Disco 1s and Defenders) won't have that problem as they won't misinterpret the differing propshaft speeds as wheelspin and lock up.
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This is very true when i worked at land rover there was an electronic control unit that was letting the rear wheels travel faster than the fronts, made in very interesting in the wet and braking hard!!! :doh:
before we go any further lets not fight about suzuki Vs. LR, like everyone else i have seen Suzukis go further than Unimogs and Ford Ranger's go further than Landys, it just depends on who's driving it and were you are!! [-o<
CNorman:
I have seen a completly standard Mk3 astra go further than a landrover, and i am not joking, doesnt make it a better off roader however does it.
Glaggs, it would be an absolute pleasure however i have just sold my 300tdi Disco so am unable to take you up on the offer.
You are welcome to come out in my GV though and watch it bog down and ground out on a farmers track with slight ruts. Then you would probably see my point. Especially if a freelander, which is also a vehicle i would term a soft roader, was infront of me as it would have no problems nogotiating it.
glaggs:
I would probably agree with you ref. your GV, but that doesn't make all Suzuki's fake offroaders. Also didn't I read some where that landrover carefully studied the Vitara before building the Freelander? I don't want to start a Landy v Suzuki slagging match - I own a Jimny and A Disco and regularly go off roaging with all makes and models - but did find your Fake off roader comment a bit too close.
I agree with stuvy and crazymacs comments though. :clap:
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