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A few questions, advice needed please

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Rich_P:

--- Quote from: dave_2A_2.25Turbo on February 29, 2008, 02:29:06 ---If I TDi my 88 I'd like to use the TDi gearbox (mainly for the diff-lock)

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What's so important enough about difflock for you to a LT230 transferbox just for that?  :-.

S188:
If you want coils, start with coils, IE a 110.  That way you avoid all this radically modified vehicle stuff that's already been done to death on other topics, and you probably end up with better results anyway.

Centre Diflock?  This one amuses me slightly as a series in 4WD (both propshafts locked together by a dog clutch) produces exactly the same result as a centre diff in difflock - there is no difference!  Where the difflock comes in is when its unlocked, it lets drive go to both axles rather than just the rear like the series box.  This is an advantage of the later setup but you really need CV joints on the front axle to run permanent 4wd properly (can be done with UJ's but won't feal very nice and things will ware).  For permanent 4wd on a series you'd need the narrow front axle of an 80" series 1, an expensive/rare axle off a 109 V8 (which were permanent 4wd anyway), a converted coil sprung axle, or I think someone, possibly in Holland has made some front halfshafts for series vehicles that have CV's, again not cheep and bad for parts supply.

Ashcroft are doing the kits again for fitting LT77's to series transferboxes.  That gives you 5 speeds and RWD, a salsbury rear axle should take that, and the series transferbox is quite a reliable thing, its the main box that usually breaks.  I've herd though that the disco lt77 has a much longer bellhouseing and remote shifter, compaired to the short nosed defender version with direct shifter.  Its the defender version that works best.  The disco 200tdi is the engine you want do fit in a series though, so that's worth keeping.

Contrary to whats been said above, I don't think 109 SW's are hens teeth, as with anything you might be waiting a couple of months for the right one and it will need some TLC (the youngest series is now 23 so they all need looking after) but you will find one.  If your looking for a genuine county station wagon you might be in for a harder challenge, but they do exist.  Even series 1 107's come up for sail occasionally, they really are rare.

ian_s:

--- Quote from: Rich_P on February 29, 2008, 01:38:22 ---you would have to be somewhat restrained on the throttle unless you want to replace the gearbox not too long afterwards
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people keep saying this and it just isnt true.
i've been running a defender 200tdi engine on a standard series gearbox for well over a year now, covered about 8thousand miles so far, and its still working great! and i dont drive gently. Yes, you have to be gently on the throttle, but thats because if you let the turbo start to work in first or second gear, it just wheel spins.
lots of people have put the 3.5 v8 into series vehicles, and no one says that they eat gearboxes, which is odd as they are quite a lot more powerful all through the rev range.

Rich_P:

--- Quote from: ian_s on March 02, 2008, 13:43:13 ---
--- Quote from: Rich_P on February 29, 2008, 01:38:22 ---you would have to be somewhat restrained on the throttle unless you want to replace the gearbox not too long afterwards
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people keep saying this and it just isnt true.
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Please explain this then to a person I know who just blew his gearbox while out laning a couple of weeks back.  I'm also aware of a few cases now where a gearbox has gone bang with a TDi in front, some after having done a fair bit of mileage after a year or so but the failure still took place.


--- Quote from: ian_s on March 02, 2008, 13:43:13 ---i've been running a defender 200tdi engine on a standard series gearbox for well over a year now, covered about 8thousand miles so far, and its still working great! and i dont drive gently. Yes, you have to be gently on the throttle, but thats because if you let the turbo start to work in first or second gear, it just wheel spins.
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Clearly you're fortunate to have a very good gearbox to start with.  Not many people do have a gearbox in such top tip condition.



--- Quote from: ian_s on March 02, 2008, 13:43:13 ---lots of people have put the 3.5 v8 into series vehicles, and no one says that they eat gearboxes, which is odd as they are quite a lot more powerful all through the rev range.

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It's the torque that gets to them, power only comes way up in the rev range.  There's also another question, what 3.5?  The One Ten 3.5 produces similar output to the TDi engine, but peak torque is a lot further up in the rev range than the TDi's peak torque.

I believe a TDi would pick up any small fault with a Series gearbox and then the gearbox will suffer.  In other words, I think that the gearbox has to be in absolute mint condition for it to have a chance of surviving long if you're not light footed.

ian_s:
gearboxes break, no matter what engine you run them with. lots of people have had it happen with standard engines, does that mean those are overpowered?

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