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Which Lift Kit and are you happy with it?

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V8MoneyPit:
I will be using TerraFirma springs from the ever helpful Frogs Island and Rough Country dampers from the previously mentioned Llama 4x4... also an extremely helpful chap  :D I've also got his relocation cones/hooks for the rear.

Frogs Island offer both TerraFirma and OME. Had OME on the 110, but thought I'd play with something a bit different on the 90.

Since you are just down the road, you are more than welcome to come and help me bolt it together, Graham  :lol:

Mutz:
Porny, articulation is what i was after and i guessed that with the lift this would help improve the overal effect, but it appears not then?

So change shocks & stick to LR suspension with out any lift at all?

Main reason for the information now, is a new chassis is on its way and i was going to replace the springs and shocks for new items.

At the moment it sits on 235/85r16 MT's, but would like to go 33/12.50r15 eventually.

Nice try Steve, but your further advanced in getting your 90 stripped for the new chassis than me. :oops:

L90OOK:
Why do you want articulation?  Fit lockers...you'll go further  :afro:

SteveG:
I have a TD5 Hardtop 90 running 255/85 16 BFG MT's (so ~33 1/2"). I tried Land Rover red/whites and DeCarbon +2", handling is too soft on road for me and if you don't have a winch up front it will lift it by 2.5". Great off road though ;) Shocks were great especially on road. So I changed out the springs for the Britpart 1.5" Heavy Duty ones. Handling on road was good and off road too. After using it more off-road, I found that the springs stiffness was stopping the suspension articulating at it's full potential...


So I tried the Devon 4x4 (OME specials) challenge springs. These sat level front to rear, great on road and off, but lift was just over 2".  I didn't need a lift that high and my front prop was vibrating due to greater angles caused by lift.

So I decided to solve it myself, and after looking through the LR range I found some springs of the right poundage and ones that I thought would make the 90 level. On paper anyway! :roll: These were..

    * NRC9448 Blue/Red 15.31" 225 lbs/inch on rear
    * NRC9449 Yellow/White 14.80" 225 lbs/inch on front

At the same time I changed out my devon 4x4 re-locators for X-Eng X-springs and my -2" shock mounts for the Gwyn Lewis Challenge set-up and this meant I needed longer shocks so I opted for the Rough Country Challenge shocks. The later two were supplied by David at Llama 4x4.

To have the rear level I turned the spring cups round on rear and fitted RR rubber isolators to top of spring. Turning the spring cup round also makes the X-spring seat well. I measured it all again to see what lift there was compared to when it was stock..


    RH Rear was 52.3cm now 54.8cm
    LH Rear was 50.4cm now 54.8cm


    RH Front was 52.3cm now 53.9cm
    LH Front was 51cm now 53.9cm

** all measurements are the lazy measurement of centre of hub to wheelarch, rather than the more accurate, but muddier one of bump stop to axle :roll:

So when empty it's sitting slightly higher at rear by about 1cm. It would be level if I took the isolator out, but I'm happy to leave it at that for when I'm carrying all the recovery gear etc. The lift is about an inch on the rear and is just over half an inch on the front compared to highest side when it was factory spec...


Here's a pic of the X-springs..




and the QT, kinked heavy duty rear radius arms..


I had to move my fuel filter as on the TD5 this gets in the way of the rear Gwyn Lewis mounts..




Here's the Rough Country shocks compared to the DeCarbon +2's..


Here's the front showing +2" mounts and rough country shocks..


I tried it without the dislocation cones to see if the spring would dislocate, and it did, so I put them back in..


Here's the rear travel..


The front won't travel as far due to the radius arms. Kinked arms won't increase this and the only way to get more travel up front is to move to a different set up like 3-Link etc.

I hope this helps

Steve

V8MoneyPit:

--- Quote from: L90OOK on January 17, 2008, 18:17:47 ---Why do you want articulation?  Fit lockers...you'll go further  :afro:

--- End quote ---

Or you could go for both  ;) :D My ARB rebuilt rear diff arrived yesterday  :D

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