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Disco_Stu:
Although I agree with the science behind what your saying, I cant help thinking I'd prefer to have one than not in the event of a frontal shunt. Having removed my old one the difference between the two is marked, I'm pretty sure the winch bumper would withstand the impact better than the original part.

And as the sticker says, a 200lb metal girder strapped to the front of my car and what I hit becomes my crumple zone. And of course, it works for the A Team....


Stu.

Bulli:

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--- Quote from: Disco Matt on January 08, 2008, 16:53:24 ---I've never been convinced by airbags TBH - notice that they're not used in motorsport where crashes are likely to be far more severe? I've also heard tales from recovery drivers of side airbags causing neck injuries that wouldn't have occurred otherwise.

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Hang on - motorsport cars have all manner of cages, four point straps etc to protect the driver, hardly comparable to every day cars. I suspect there is plenty of evidence to suggest air bags have saved lives.

True - my point is that airbags aren't the only way

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im sure there is but an airbag is not doing the job of a cage or a harness. An air bag is there to protect the driver from the intrusion of the wheel more than anything. racing steering columns are designed to collapse to reduce the risk of this scenario. 
Air bags are a major move forward as far as safety is concerned but as we should all know speed is the biggest killer. The faster the crash the lower your chances.... so we should be safer lol
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mentalmoshio sophs V8i:
GEE WIZ VS discovery that would be a lamb to the slaughter.  :clap: :clap: :clap: :afro: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Evilgoat:
Air bags, crumple zones etc are all there to help the driver survive and reduce the g force exerted on the occupants as already mentioned. Accidents happen, and its not unknown with larger vehicles that the structure of the passenger space is undamaged but the occupants are still killed by the G-forces involved.

In a reasonaly fast impact you ar elooking at parts of your body weighing at least 100 times what they normally do, this is enought op plaster your barin to the inside of your skull. Air bags are there to prevent this and as a secondary, prevent mechanical contact with anything.

The early airbags were bad news, having injured rescuers and serivice techs alike. A lot of it is about damage limitation, sure, whiplash hurts and it can profoundly change your life, but not as much as what the alternative could be.


Motor racing a lot of this prtection is ther ein other forms, neck brace, helmet etc. Seeing as the public wont wear this to nip to the shops, we get airbags.

muddyjames:
It always baffles me why my driver and other loader wont wear thier seat belts at work in the lorry. I always have to sit in the middle seat with a lap belt :( Better than a windscreen I guess.

Seat belts arent uncomfy either.

However. I have seen that clip before and it did shock me. My air bag warning light is on and has been for 2 years. I am baffled on how to reset it cheaply. But if your in a crash that big with A pilars folding in around you I feel an airbag is not likely to do much. In a slow crash then yes, probably help alot. I will never forget richard hammond though when he crashed the porsche cayen that he thought an air bag would be like a big fluffy pilow, and he was wrong, its like hitting a hard pillow! :lol:

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