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Anti 4x4 BBC. Again.

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JumboBeef:
I used to be a lifeguard (no, really) many, many years ago (when I was fit) and we learnt a lot about first aid, and more importantly, brain injuries.  If someone hits their head (or even if you think they have), you MUST get medical help.

My guess at what happened is this:

Girl looses control, and is hit by the Range Rover.  Everyone stops, and everyone is shaken up, but it seems everyone is OK.  Woman driving RR goes home.  It is/was not her fault.

What no one knew was the girl had suffered a brain injury.

What *should* have happened is the father should have taken the girl to A&E.  If he had done this, the girl might have lived.  But he didn't.  The girl's brain then swelled over the following few hours and by the time help came, it was too late.

It is the excatly the same as what happened to Richard Hammond.  After his crash, he seems OK and was talking to those around him.  If he had just gone home (like this girl did), then he would have died.  He only survived because he had help straight away.

Very sad, but if the father (or anyone else involved) had known about basic first aid, she might have lived.  

How many here know their basic first aid?

mike142sl:
You could be right, alternatively there could have been any amount of internal bleeding / rupture that would have had the same outcome. Very sad all round.

Niel:

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Girl looses control, and is hit by the Range Rover.  Everyone stops, and everyone is shaken up, but it seems everyone is OK.  Woman driving RR goes home.  It is/was not her fault.

How many here know their basic first aid?
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How about "Girl looses control, and hits the Range Rover"?

Basic first aid, yep think I'm still up to that...

Stormin:
When mini moto's were the thing, I nearly hit a 10 year old riding one. As I approached the entrance to a housing estate in a neaby village, two mm's shot off the estate. I'd to brake hard and swerve to miss the 10 year old on the second one, who fell off his bike. His FATHER was riding the first one. I was told later by an estate resident, that complaints had been made to the police about them riding about, though the police had not been able to catch them at it. It took nearly losing his son to bring the father to his senses. I feel for the girls family, but I also feel for the woman driver. There but for etc.

Boggert:
I was having a discussion on a nother forum about this and some numpty said she would have probably survived if hit by a smart car because it has better crumple zones... :roll:

I lost my rag a bit... here is my reply

It has nothing to do with Crumple zones, you hit a child in any car crumple zones or not its going to make squat of difference, they are designs to absorb and spread the impact and protect the occupants of the car.  
Look at the front of a smart car it like a brick, the first thing that is going to happen is the child will go through the paned between the head lights. you telling me that that is likely to not kill. To be fair.

have a look at here...

Your smart car rates worse than a Grand Vitara and not much better than a Discovery3

http://www.euroncap.com/tests.aspx

In fact if you look your average family saloon fairs just as bad.

This is the report from the Hyundai Getz... only got 1 star

Pedestrian protection
Only the areas of the bonnet where an adult head might impact offered any protection. The bonnet top where a child’s head might strike, the bonnet’s leading edge and the bumper were very unfriendly towards pedestrians. A poor result.

This is from a Volvo XC90 2 stars

The bumper and bonnet leading edge were unforgiving. But the top of the bonnet protected children’s and adult’s heads to give the XC90 a two-star rating. Volvo needs to work harder to improve pedestrian safety.

And your smart Car same rating as a Volvo XC90 4x4 :shock:

The bumper scored maximum points for the protection it offered to pedestrians' legs. However, the front edge of the bonnet scored no points and those areas which might be struck by pedestrians' heads were rated as predominantly poor.

And your little round Audi TT, small light sports car. No stars

Protection offered to pedestrians was abysmal: the car scored no points and gained no stars. Euro NCAP says Audi needs to improve performance in this important area.

And a Suzuki Grand Vitara 3 Stars.

The bumper scored maximum points for the protection it offered to pedestrians' legs. However, the leading edge of the bonnet scored no points.

Lets face facts, it you get hit by a car at speed it aren’t going to be good.

If you look at engines, My mate drives a Landrover Freelander well that has the same engine as the MGF, Lotus Elies, Rover 400 1.8 and MG 1.8 but why do people abuse him even thoe his car can carry twice as much as the lotus and MGF. There is no logic to it. In fact the argument is floored and a load of tosh.

All I say is don't believe the 4x4 Hype the facts prove its not all true..

I hate uneducated answers :roll: But felt better after my rant. :lol:

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