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glaggs:
Not fully read all this thread, I still believe that global wartming is all part of the conspiracy theory to keep us scared, keep us from becoming united and therefore keep us controlled! Anyway that wasn't my main point.
Bulli had a rant about batteries and recyclability, everything can be reclaimed or recycled, but usualy the cost is greater than the value of the recycled products so we don't bother. As for traditional lead/acid batteries; there is a factory near Darley Dale that is dedicated just to recycling old lead acid batteries, and believe me it ain't a small opperation.
discowoman:
OK so as I understand it CARBON DIOXIDE (co2) is a greenhouse gas? So we as a species - as do 99.99% of all living thinks on this planet emmit Co2 as a by-product of us living - so when do they envisage putting a 'breathing tax' on us , or fitting hydrogen power cells to us surgically? think about it ..i ead somewhere that an average person exhales about 1/2 a litre of Co2 every breath.. so an average og 45 breathes a minute = 22.5 litres of Co2 every minute 1350litres every hour 32400 every day 11826000 a year .. now i dont know how that works out in Grams ( like the Govt use for vehicles) but multiply that by about 6 billion, and I think we get an idea of why we get 'global warming'...Plus arent we heading for a Planet 'warming' before yet another ice age ??? (every 3,000,000 years or so I think!
MY OPINION - NOT A STATEMENT OF FACT ( before the thought police come knocking)
FACT - The wings of a 747 are longer than the Wright Brothers 1st flight - (my useless fact of the day )
:D
Bulli:
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All batteries can indeed be disposed of and that DOES include all the chemicals.... try doing a Google search if you are unsure :roll:
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Mark this is what i was responding to, and yes batteries can be recycled but there is a lot of harm done still. Like recycled paper, the chemicals used cause more damage so you are best using paper from renewable forrests. Either way the chemicals still exist and what cannot be reused is the acid in lead acid batteries...i cant find a mention of what does happen to them.
here is a website extract.
Battery reprocessing
Batteries contain a range of metals which can be reused as a secondary raw material. There are well-established methods for the recycling of most batteries containing lead, nickel-cadmium, nickel hydride and mercury. For some, such as newer nickel-hydride and lithium systems, recycling is still in the early stages.
There are a number of different recycling processes for batteries, which are aimed at recovering a variety of materials:
Lead can be recovered by either separating the different materials that make up the battery (lead, plastics, acid, etc.) prior to metallurgical processing. Alternatively, batteries can be processed as a whole through heat treatment in a particular type of furnace with metals being recovered at the end of his process.
NiCd batteries can be reprocessed through a similar thermal technique, which recovers cadmium and iron-nickel for steel production.
Batteries containing mercury (button cells) are most commonly processed using a vacuum-thermal treatment, in which the mercury vaporises. It condenses and eventually solidifies when temperatures are reduced and can then be reintroduced into the material cycle.
NiMH batteries are reprocessed by mechanically separating the individual materials (plastic, hydrogen and nickel) within a vacuum chamber to prevent the escape of hydrogen. The output of this process is a product with high nickel content which can be used in the manufacture of stainless steel.
Li-Ion batteries are currently reprocessed through pyrolysis (heat treatment) with the primary recovery the metal content.
Zinc-carbon/air and alkaline-manganese batteries can be reprocessed using a number of different methods, which include smelting and other thermal-metallurgical processes to recover the metal content (particularly zinc).
So all the processes are energy intensive when reclaiming the material from batteries. Which is probably less harmful to the environment than digging the stuff from the ground and carrying out the initial proccessing. It still does have environmental impact though. So all this talk of well just recycle it doesnt mean it doesn no harm.... food for thought eh?
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Bulli:
--- Quote from: Silvery Thing ---
--- Quote from: "Bulli" ---
All batteries can indeed be disposed of and that DOES include all the chemicals.... try doing a Google search if you are unsure :roll:
:lol:
--- End quote ---
Mark this is what i was responding to, and yes batteries can be recycled but there is a lot of harm done still. Like recycled paper, the chemicals used cause more damage so you are best using paper from renewable forrests. Either way the chemicals still exist and what cannot be reused is the acid in lead acid batteries...i cant find a mention of what does happen to them.
here is a website extract.
Battery reprocessing
Batteries contain a range of metals which can be reused as a secondary raw material. There are well-established methods for the recycling of most batteries containing lead, nickel-cadmium, nickel hydride and mercury. For some, such as newer nickel-hydride and lithium systems, recycling is still in the early stages.
There are a number of different recycling processes for batteries, which are aimed at recovering a variety of materials:
Lead can be recovered by either separating the different materials that make up the battery (lead, plastics, acid, etc.) prior to metallurgical processing. Alternatively, batteries can be processed as a whole through heat treatment in a particular type of furnace with metals being recovered at the end of his process.
NiCd batteries can be reprocessed through a similar thermal technique, which recovers cadmium and iron-nickel for steel production.
Batteries containing mercury (button cells) are most commonly processed using a vacuum-thermal treatment, in which the mercury vaporises. It condenses and eventually solidifies when temperatures are reduced and can then be reintroduced into the material cycle.
NiMH batteries are reprocessed by mechanically separating the individual materials (plastic, hydrogen and nickel) within a vacuum chamber to prevent the escape of hydrogen. The output of this process is a product with high nickel content which can be used in the manufacture of stainless steel.
Li-Ion batteries are currently reprocessed through pyrolysis (heat treatment) with the primary recovery the metal content.
Zinc-carbon/air and alkaline-manganese batteries can be reprocessed using a number of different methods, which include smelting and other thermal-metallurgical processes to recover the metal content (particularly zinc).
So all the processes are energy intensive when reclaiming the material from batteries. Which is probably less harmful to the environment than digging the stuff from the ground and carrying out the initial proccessing. It still does have environmental impact though. So all this talk of well just recycle it doesnt mean it doesn no harm.... food for thought eh?
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glaggs:
Just checking your awake....morning
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