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marjan:

--- Quote from: L90OOK on January 16, 2008, 10:05:50 ---
--- Quote from: marjan on January 15, 2008, 19:21:50 ---The standard H/brake on my 90 is totally useless, would get more hold putting a fag paper under the rear wheel  :lol: :lol: :lol:

Definately the next thing on my list when I can afford one.

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Just need to setup/adjust properly & they work fine  :lol:

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Ok, I need some pointers on how to set it up properly please  :)

Saffy:

--- Quote from: SteveG on January 16, 2008, 18:37:49 ---
--- Quote from: Saffy on January 16, 2008, 17:58:18 ---No axe, just a potential customer asking questions amongst my peer group, researching the market... is that no allowed?


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Your touchy  :roll:, did I say it wasn't allowed. I was going by your posts here, where you did not ask questions on how an X-brake performed you asked if it was overpriced and then you implied that X-Eng marks up their products to over inflated levels. Didn't seem like you were researching from your peers.

I've just read your X-Lite post, and it doesn't help me change my view. If you've got a mate that says they are good, go and see his truck at night and see for yourself. Or is it again the fact that you think they are overpriced. If you think they are overpriced, then price up the components, they have a bulb, spring clip, a bulb holder and a milled and annodised enclosure. See what total you get and then you'll see what mark up X-Eng have and you'll know your answer instead of asking on a forum where you won't get an answer.

It seems to me that you think all their prices are over the top and what you are seeking is for other like minded people to agree, not whether the products work or not.

You are quite free to do this, as I'm quite free to post my opinion of your posts, so carry on.

Cheers

Steve


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err, you appear to troll baiting now which will ruin the thread. Needlessly getting over defensive of X-Eng by reading more into my questions than I intended, I am not attacking the company! Are you in some way associated with them? I have no ulterior motive and do not want to get into a slanging match or having to justify why I made posts at ever step. I am not anti- X-Eng.

I  made reservations on the x-lite clear and never once mentioned any thoughts on the price, you can't go making such conclusions and making up things up about what I think (thread here http://www.mud-club.com/forum/index.php/topic,53472.msg478919.html#msg478919 for all to see). They are of good *build* quality - but I questioned their validity as lamps, again as a potential customer I was asking for the opinion of others.  In the end I decided against buying a set.

So far didn't feel the need to ask about how the x-brake performed as the testimony of those who have them fitted is clear, which is looking good for x-eng and my money.

The x-ball price so far appears to be over inflated - (I am still open to being told its a different, better special x-eng adjustable ball though) but if not, and someone says they are going to buy one I will say wait a minute... you get a better deal at xyz company.

TDi90:

--- Quote from: marjan on January 16, 2008, 19:06:02 ---
--- Quote from: L90OOK on January 16, 2008, 10:05:50 ---
--- Quote from: marjan on January 15, 2008, 19:21:50 ---The standard H/brake on my 90 is totally useless, would get more hold putting a fag paper under the rear wheel  :lol: :lol: :lol:

Definately the next thing on my list when I can afford one.

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Just need to setup/adjust properly & they work fine  :lol:

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Ok, I need some pointers on how to set it up properly please  :)

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get under with a flathead(i think) and on the drum you will see a hole with a screw. turn it one way and then keep testing the handbrake. if it holds better then you turned it the rigth way, if it doesnt turn it the other way!
(if the screw wont turn anymore then you have to adjust a nut somewhere on the wire IIRC, but ill wait to see if someone knows better)
(or if it still doesnt hold take the shoes off and clean it up, its probably full of mud! hence the main reason to buy an X BRAKE!)
hope this helps.
R

X-Eng Simon:
Thanks for the positive comment about the X-Brake.


--- Quote from: Tommo on December 25, 2007, 23:51:02 ---I think the statement about it being used on large earthmoving equipment is a bit of a crazy thing to say though, because you dont know what it was doing. it certainly wasnt the hand brake thats for sure!

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it's used as a handbrake on JCB's, loaders, dumpers & tippers.  OK, it's not 'Large' by your standards, but even a JCB is large compared to a Land Rover - but I guess Large is subjective.

Are they over priced?
The price has gone up recently - but we were faced with price rises on several of the components which amount to more than the rise.  We currently make £5 less on each brake than we did at launch.  However, you now get a much better product.  The original disks were just laser cut from steel sheet.  The current ones are cut then machined which gives much better surface regularity and flatness.

All the profit from X-Eng has been put back into R&D.  Ask anyone who knows me - I'm not exactly living it up on the proceeds.

We give reasonable discounts to clubs and put a lot of money back in to the sport in the form of sponsorship of individuals and events.

When you see new laptops for £100 and a battery drill for a fiver - yes the handbrake seems over-priced.

Hand on heart I wish everything could be cheaper.  The only way I can see it happening is by doing what everyone else seems to do and switch manufacturing to China.  It's tempting - but as far as possible we'll support manufacturing in the UK.

Si



V8MoneyPit:
Whenever I've spoken to anyone from X-Eng, I've always been impressed by their business ethics. I think trying to stick with British industry is admirable. However, as Si says, it comes at a price. There will come a time when it is no longer cheap to manufacture in China as their economy grows. But another country will come along to replace them, and you can be sure it won't be the UK!

Personally, i think the X-Brake is reasonably priced..... although I got mine at the old price  :D

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