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Sider:
I agree with Alan and Denviks. In all honesty, had you done that to me, you would be flat on your face. And I am about 4 stones lighter than you. However, I have never had any kind of simpathy for bullies, and as my instructor used to say: "Size does not matter, it is how you hit them that does".

Using your volume to put your point across equals, in my eyes, to schoolyard bullying, and if I may say so, the need to do it tends to be a sign of inferiority complex.

IMHO, your actions are not better than those of the Anti4x4 brigade, plastering windscreens with stickers. Actualy, come to think of it, both actions could be considered as the same thing, criminal damage.

**em**:
agreed size doesnt matter...im about 5 7 and weigh about 8 stone but if you had done that to me i would of got out and smacked ya one!

rollazuki:
Im with you L90ook
Ive ridden bikes for a lot of years and that bouncing orange fag end is not a thing Id like to land on a bike of mine, or on me.

Face it guys, the road isnt an ashtray.

Oh yeah, just cos you are a big lad doesnt mean you are handy.....Ive seen a few big lads get hurt cos they thought being big was a bonus.....

If you sling tab ends on the road, and someone is brave/daft enough to hand em back, then Id say good on him!

Nowt against smokers mind you. They pay plenty of tax, and despite my wife being pleased that I dont come back from a pub/club smelling of other peoples smoke, I do think the lack of a smoky haze has kinda taken something away from pubs.
Sure, a family pub without smoke is great, but a dingy rock club smelling of old beer and B.O. is just not so good.

Rolla :wink:

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--- Quote from: "rollazuki" ---Im with you L90ook
Ive ridden bikes for a lot of years and that bouncing orange fag end is not a thing Id like to land on a bike of mine, or on me.

Face it guys, the road isnt an ashtray.

Oh yeah, just cos you are a big lad doesnt mean you are handy.....Ive seen a few big lads get hurt cos they thought being big was a bonus.....

If you sling tab ends on the road, and someone is brave/daft enough to hand em back, then Id say good on him!

Nowt against smokers mind you. They pay plenty of tax, and despite my wife being pleased that I dont come back from a pub/club smelling of other peoples smoke, I do think the lack of a smoky haze has kinda taken something away from pubs.
Sure, a family pub without smoke is great, but a dingy rock club smelling of old beer and B.O. is just not so good.

Rolla :wink:
--- End quote ---

I dont disagree with the sentiment of telling people not to litter, and also the danger to Bikers and other road users, my argument was that by doing as he did L90ook was acting just as bad as the guy who threw the butt out. the old saying two wrongs dont make a right is very true.

STEVE AXWORTHY:
sorry chaps but my opinion is that whether you smokeor not and throw your butt on the floor or eat your take away in your car and just open the door and deposit bag and all associated rubbish on car park ,or walk down street and throw sweet wrapers fag packet wrappers chewingum whateveron the floor  you should no better and most importantly educate your children too as they only follow by example.

sorry for rant but this is somthing i feel is very important and i aint a greenie worried about enviromental issues but more about pride in our surroundings etc

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