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V8MoneyPit:

--- Quote from: "mike142sl" ---REDUCE the amount you buy and the amount of packaging you accept i.e. unwrap it at the shop and leave the shop to dispose of it.
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We buy most meat, veg, eggs, etc locally from producers anyway, so it doesn't have any specific packaging. Just something to carry it in. The last beef we bought, we first saw it while it was still walking! And had a duck last Monday that was still flying on Saturday!


--- Quote from: "mike142sl" ---RECYCLE. If you've been clever with the first two above then you won't have much of this either. Most supermarkets have bottle banks etc, just include it in the trip to the supermarket.
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Recycling would be fine if your local council will actually take the stuff. Ours is totally useless. The only things we can put in the recycling bin is paper and plastic bottles. No other plastic... no plastic tubs, plastic bags, etc. not that we have many. But they should get their own act together before penalising the public. And what if you don't go to supermarkets very often? We don't as I explained above. The very act of buying from those places is bad news for the environment. Sorry, that's for another thread though!


--- Quote from: "mike142sl" ---I do all these and our wheelie bin is not even half full each week with a family of four. I reckon that I could leave our bin two, sometimes three weeks between collections so that would be all I paid for.

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I'm not at all convinced that they will charge 'per collection'. It is far more likely to be an annual figure added to your council tax. So it won't make any difference how few times you have it collected. Until they get a bar coding or chipping system in place, they have no way of logging how many collections they do.

Ultimately, this is just another easy way to tax the public and look politically correct in the process. It is nothing to do with the environment. It's simply to raise revenue.

Dirty Gertie:

--- Quote from: "mike142sl" ---Offset by a reduction in your council tax. The rest is EASY by throwing less away.
REDUCE the amount you buy and the amount of packaging you accept i.e. unwrap it at the shop and leave the shop to dispose of it.
REUSE. Theres plenty of plastic out there that can be reused rather than throwing it away or buy something that can be reused. I can't help thinking that those plastic milk bottles could be replaced with reusable options but that's a long way off. Compost kitchen waste is another reuse option that saves you cash on buying the stuff.
RECYCLE. If you've been clever with the first two above then you won't have much of this either. Most supermarkets have bottle banks etc, just include it in the trip to the supermarket.

I do all these and our wheelie bin is not even half full each week with a family of four. I reckon that I could leave our bin two, sometimes three weeks between collections so that would be all I paid for.

EASY
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Ha ha, thanks for typing that, you saved me having to have a long rant on the subject!! \:D/  \:D/  \:D/

Evilgoat:

--- Quote from: "V8MoneyPit" ---[I'm not at all convinced that they will charge 'per collection'. It is far more likely to be an annual figure added to your council tax. So it won't make any difference how few times you have it collected. Until they get a bar coding or chipping system in place, they have no way of logging how many collections they do.

Ultimately, this is just another easy way to tax the public and look politically correct in the process. It is nothing to do with the environment. It's simply to raise revenue.
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Many bins in Hants are already chipped. It was done years ago with the fake premise of dealing with the non existant problem of wheelie bin theft.

We do recycle in our household, but I fail to see the point when on bin day, the truck rolls up and both bins go in the same lorry!!! Why

Some counties are better setup than others. Hants doesnt seem too bad and there are a lot of recycling points about. The govt could be making it easy but the whole point I was trying to make here is that we already pay for this service as it stands.

Please remeber before you have your Rants that there is this huge gap in recyling facilitiesd. In East Sussex (Hove) Everything got recycled, where in Eastleigh, almost nothing does. The facilities exist in Eastleigh to do it yourself but in other areas they dont.

In Calgary I used to crush and keep my milk bottles then once a week with the daily shop they would go into a dedicated recyling point at the local Safeway. Only way to do that here is take them down the tip. A large number of milk bottles do get recycled though. This is a recent thing though.

When I got back I started doing the same out of habbit, gave up a few months later when I realised that the huge pile of milk bottles on my balcony couldnt be recycled easilly.

Its something we all need to do and something that needs to be addressed but as always in the UK, the bloody big stick is used as a motivator and this just cannot go on, its starting to demotivate people as it is and it'll only get worse. How about rewarding them that do recycle rather than punishing them that dont?

I'll recycle better when I dont see it all going in with the landfill waste, when the facilities actually exists to do it and when we stop this stupid environmental one-upmanship. The planet is going to hell in a handbasket but people are loosing interest because the hype they are forcefed everyday, maybe if facts were actually allowed to filter through and people allowed to deal with it in our own way things would happen faster. Yes I drive a dirty stinky 4x4, well two, and I dont recycle as much as I should, but how can I be motivated to actually do anything while XXXX industry is being forced down our throats as being the reason global warming/cooling/pole shifting/extinction/pick your own.

In short
Why the hell do we all get the blame when the people we rely on to make these things happen are sat on their big fat backsides doing naf all other than feeding us manipulated statistics about how me throwing a recyclable plastic bottle in the wrong bin will end the world.

graham:
You could always chuck in the fire  :?

mike142sl:

--- Quote from: "Niel" ---Come live down in the warm south in the summer where we already have 2 weekly collection, the bins stink, fly's and rat's are becoming a major problem
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Stay in the South Hams quite a bit where for a couple of years now they have alternate week collections for landfill and recyclable. It's quite a mare working out which coloured bag to put each type of waste in to start with as well. But the place I stay in is one of five properties with no space for their own bins so they have a communal area for them. Fortunatley they have got their act together to share the bins and there has never been any probs with smells or vermin.

Industry won't change its way until its customers demand it. There are plenty of examples but if people start to leave the packaging in the stores etc then it won't be long before the stores convince the manufacturers to use better and less packaging.

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