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Boggert:

--- Quote from: "Lord Shagg-Pyle" ---The Good Book says
"No motor vehicle shall be used on a road in a manner which causes any excessive noise which could have ben avoided by reasonable care of the driver"
Regulation 97 Construction and Use regs 1986.

Interpret that how you want.
I have issued tickets for making tyres squeal, loud music, revving of stupid bean can exhausts etc etc. I have to say that I usually take action after a warning has been ignored.
Again the recent topic of seizure of vehicles can come into play.
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Agghh that will be the good old section 59, I guess. Distress, Alarm and Annoyance.

carbore:
With regard to a few points (as its late and iv hit the booze)

Free flowing exhaust is hard to quantify, i bet most of the boy racer crap reduces power as it removes appropriate back pressure and is of poor quality. That said my full oversize stainless on the Elise makes it rather nippy, though some poeple have crap loud, exhausts on Elises and then whinge at track days when they fail the sound check

I used to have a scooby turbo years ago (beofre they fell into the wrong hands) some of the blokes in the club had really loud droning exhausts that surley cant have been good.

As people have siad TVR's leave (or rather left) the factory rather noisy so from a point of law surley noisy has to be quantified.

Dont bike exhausts have to be EU marked or something?

Finally I trust "propper coppers" but years go speeding tickets were given out by "propper coppers" who made decisions based on judgment and experience, now we have "traffic agents" with targets combing the roads and machines giving out tickets (by email next im sure)

So the topic is more about whats around the corner and "I diddnt stick up for such and such becuase im not a such and such, then its your turn and there is no one left to sick up for you!"

Bulli:

--- Quote from: "carbore" ---Dont bike exhausts have to be EU marked or something?

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they have to be stamped with the bs kitemark....but strangely for the mot the volume is up tp the testers discretion!!

oh and mine hasnt got a stamp and its been on the bike years. Its relatively quiet a the revs you go throught towns and villages at.

Lord Shagg-Pyle:
surely it is a case of everything in moderation? My old Mini used to have a straight through 2" bore single box system on it. It went like stink and howled like a demon, but, I drove it in such a way that I didn't cause annoyance to people that lived nearby.
I don't have a problem with 'performance'(?) exhausts, apart from when the local Chavalry decide to do their charge past my house at 2.00am, then I get hacked off.
If they want to rev the guts out of it and make noise, then go to a 'run wot U brung' day and thrash it (and hopefully pop a couple of pistons).
They sooner they work out that the wider the exit aperture on the exhaust is not directly linked to [wee john thomas] size, they'll be far better off. :wink:

Bush Tucker Man:

--- Quote from: "carbore" ---As people have siad TVR's leave (or rather left) the factory rather noisy so from a point of law surley noisy has to be quantified.
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Yes, but TVR had a 'different attitude' to the regulations apparantly.
Do you remember Clarkson testing the Sagaris(?) & saying that when he asked about the lack of ABS, after EEC law stated that ALL new cars are to be fitted with it saying the factory had told him; "Erm.. don't think we got that memo!"
They could be Italian, or French, with thoughts like that :lol:


--- Quote from: "carbore" ---Dont bike exhausts have to be EU marked or something?
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Yes, they do, & they get pulled for them.
There's a bikers cafe that I call at quite a lot when I'm out riding around & occasionally there'll be a Traffic Car (& a couple of bikes) parked nearby, 'checking things out'


--- Quote from: "carbore" ---Finally I trust "propper coppers" but years go speeding tickets were given out by "propper coppers" who made decisions based on judgment and experience,
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There's still some about, or there are up here.
I see a few where I work & they're prepared to use discretion if appropriate.
If it's a safety related issue, poor driving standard, vehicle maintance, sheer stupidity, let alone a blatent offence, they'll act accordingly.

Obviously the stopped riders/drivers attitude counts strongly towards any degree of discretion adopted

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