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welshlaner:
--- Quote from: "Wireless" ---If the farmer owns the road, whether it's an ORPA or not, he can store and drive his own vehicles on his own land, including parking on the road that he owns without paying road tax or having it insured, all he has to do by law these days is SORN it.
These plonkers that want to close the route to motorised traffic have to realise that he is entitled to spread muck down both hedges of the lane twice a day if he wants to, it's his land.
Especially if they are causing a bit of a stink over his Landy.
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Interesting cause I know of a case were a untaxed, uninsured sorn'ed vechicle was towed away on private land yet parked next to a right of way, an unsurfaced UCR.
Course the person complained, it was towed away by the council acting on a request from the police.
I've seen the place in question the exact spot, the UCR is tarmaced up to a certain point then becomes a gravel track but still a row, the vechicle for years parked outside a small house but off the track, still got towed away.
Wireless:
What was the result?
Police request to Council?
What possible right had the Council to interfere with a legally sorned vehicle parked on private land?
Sounds like a legal precursor for the NCP lot, but this time it was sorned!
I presume the vehicle/land owner is taking the Council to court?
welshlaner:
--- Quote from: "Wireless" ---What was the result?
Police request to Council?
What possible right had the Council to interfere with a legally sorned vehicle parked on private land?
Sounds like a legal precursor for the NCP lot, but this time it was sorned!
I presume the vehicle/land owner is taking the Council to court?
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Sorry for not getting back sooner, I needed to check the final outcome
The incident happened in a North Wales town, a SORN'ed vechicle was parked down the side of a private road that was unadopted.
Police/local authority have the powers under new ABSO laws to remove any vechicle not showing a in date tac disc thats parked on the public highway and they did so. In this case a Police Notice of removal was placed on the windscreen, the owner noticed it and next day contacted the council to say it was private land. But in the mean time council contractors removed it under the new 24 hour rule, prevoius to that it was 7 days. The vechicle was deamed to worth less than £100 and damaged in transit current where abouts unknown.
Now the owner complained both to the Police and the local authority, both claim they were within there rights. He's been to the council and showed his property deeds which out lines the boundarys and the vechicle was parked on such, but to no effect. The person at the council (not got a name) pointed out they believe highways consider a right of way to be 18 feet and that included any private land.
The land was a grass verge next to a tarmac/rough road about 9 feet across, the other side has a brick wall and behind someones garden, before the properties were built that was a back lane running along these houses. Now its become, according to the council a legal right of way under some 20 year rule (implied use) but "unadopted".
I spoke to the owner not long ago, he given up taking any action as he been told the most he could claim is £100 and legal costs if he to win or lose could be more, course he is bitter as the motor might have been road worthy and also the council never maintained the patch of land, it was him who used to mow the grass etc
Yoshi:
This is why this country sucks. Where your private land is no longer private :(
The other thing i hate is that if the council want to regenerate an area, they can force you to sell your house by getting a compulsory purchase order. So it means even if you own your house basically at the end of the day you dont :(
welshlaner:
--- Quote from: "BadgersRover" ---This is why this country sucks. Where your private land is no longer private :(
The other thing i hate is that if the council want to regenerate an area, they can force you to sell your house by getting a compulsory purchase order. So it means even if you own your house basically at the end of the day you dont :(
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Its not just councils, any private developer can get planning permission to knock down your's and everyone elses house, then once they have planning permission get the council to enforce it and knock your house down to make way for there development.
Tesco have done it to get rid of businesses on land they do not own so they can build a new superstore
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