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dazzawhipple:
and there striking over that  :shock: .......sack them all then thay would have to get a real job

V8MoneyPit:

--- Quote from: "Ricky" --- currently if he completes his job after 4 hours he goes and gets paid for 8, but if management asks him to stay the full 8 hour shift to help others out. he can claim the additional 4 as overtime even though he's already being paid to be there! common for a dept/section to slow down to create overtime for others which is recipricated at a later date.
No wonder the buisiness is in such a mess!
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This is just one of many examples of historical practices that should never have been allowed in the first place. The problem is that people get so used to it that they find it hard to accept being asked to work the hours they are being paid for.

Here are some more examples:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/10/09/npost309.xml

Some are just astonishing  :shock:

SteveGoodz:

--- Quote from: "Evilgoat" ---Sorry but You arent Civil Servants, Privatised you see.
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Depends on your definition of privatised. If having just one share holder who just happens to be HM Government is being private then I concede your point ~ but then you have to agree that British Steel, British Rail, British Leyland, British Telecom, British Aerospace, British Gas and 95% of the deep coal mines were never anything but privately owned (i.e. never nationalised).

Even when The Post Office was turned into Consignia and made a PLC they were still owned by HMG and turning that into Royal Mail hasn't changed its status.

SteveGoodz:

--- Quote from: "V8MoneyPit" ---
--- Quote from: "Ricky" --- currently if he completes his job after 4 hours he goes and gets paid for 8, but if management asks him to stay the full 8 hour shift to help others out. he can claim the additional 4 as overtime even though he's already being paid to be there! common for a dept/section to slow down to create overtime for others which is recipricated at a later date.
No wonder the buisiness is in such a mess!
--- End quote ---


This is just one of many examples of historical practices that should never have been allowed in the first place. The problem is that people get so used to it that they find it hard to accept being asked to work the hours they are being paid for.
--- End quote ---


This is not a historical practice. It was introduced less than 5 years ago by the very same management team that now want to stop it.

SteveGoodz:
Look folks, I wasn't defending the strike action ~ personally I think it's futile and will simply hasten the demise of RM as a single entity. My post was intended to give some balance to the debate; to put forward some of the concerns that RM employees have expressed to me ~ an outsider ~ when I've asked them.

In my original post I mentioned a company that sends about 1000 small packages a day with RM. I was in a meeting with their owner today (on a completely disassociated matter) and he told me they've been losing £25k per day since the strikes started and he's going to have to lay off staff just when he should be thinking about taking on temps for the Xmas rush. He's also cancelling his contract with RM and looking to use TNT/DHL/Business Post/whoever in future. Perversely, his situation will probably have a knock-on effect on my own business as he's almost bound to delay some planned automation improvements that I've spent 8 months talking him into  :(

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