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Swearing on the increase
att:
The days of becoming hooked up on swear words are long gone in my book. I feel that as a society we are pandering to the namby`s and the PC lot too much, I live in the real world and I swear in all of my worlds.
I try to tone it down out of respect for others on a forum like this one* (*read too PC and too much out of the real world)...But I guess at the end of the day y`all aint my kinda people.......I can live with that. :D :wink: ...On the whole y`all are such nice people that it hurts.....Different worlds an all that I spose`.....
mike142sl:
I feel that BEFORE we can enjoy our 'rights' we should exercise our 'responsibilities' and I would just like to thank everyone who has met that and 'respected' those of us who are uncomfortable with swearing on this forum.
thermidorthelobster:
--- Quote from: "Wireless" ---If I write the following sentence, and self edit, what makes it any different from the actual word, the meaning isn't lost? It being a well known phrase within the English vernacular, and to be absolutely honest, the word being edited out isn't, in this day and age, considered offensive by the majority of the population, indeed child actors use the word as a part of many scripts, although it's not in regular use in my house, editing it away for the sake of being politically correct seems a tad ridiculous...
'People shouldn't go <edit> on their own doorstep'
I ask you, does spelling the word with a set of * instead of <edit> change the meaning or understanding in any way what so ever? Because we all know what word is missing, and if <edit> is acceptable after moderation, then a row of *, or combination of letters and * should be equally acceptable and require self moderation.
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To avoid ambiguity, if you put in "<edit>" I'd accept that, because nobody who doesn't already know the phrase is likely to work it out. If you put in the full word, of course it should be moderated. If you put in an s and a few other characters, I'd moderate that out, because it looks to me like you're deliberately trying to hide from the swear filter. I'd also be a little concerned if you put "****", because a set of asterisks is generally acknowledged as meaning "there's a big swear word in here" in a way that "<edit>" does not; "****" consequently makes your post slightly more aggressive and whilst it may not be modded, I'd be a little uncomfortable about it. However, of course the easiest thing is just to avoid that territory altogether.
This isn't to do with being politically correct, it's to do with members knowing their children can happily browse the forum without bumping into content which is not generally acceptable. Whilst your average 8-year-old may sometimes stumble across that word, most parents would prefer it not to be used unabashedly in front of them.
--- Quote ---Which words other than the one in question can we use? Is there a dictionary of words available from the moderators that we can comply with? As there's children present can I write the word 'poo', or use a phrase that refers to 'poo', such as 'having a number two'? Do I have to use a child's dictionary or boundaries to express myself?
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My rule of thumb is, if it's used on the Simpsons, it's acceptable. For example, the word "crap" is sometimes used and isn't filtered. In modern English it is not regarded as a particularly heinous word. Ditto with "ass", but bizarelly its English-spelt equivalent with 4 letters is still regarded as less acceptable. The only major exception I can think of is the p-word, which in American English is totally inoccuous, but in British English is still frowned upon.
If it helps, imagine you're talking loudly to a friend in a fish and chip shop with a table of primary school children sitting next to you. I don't think you need a dictionary to work out what is and is not acceptable.
--- Quote ---Rules have been mentioned in a locked thread, but none are posted, either you want to debate the point or not, locking a thread suggests not, posting a new thread on the old thread suggests the moderators do, are you just trying your best to confuse us or is this a genuine mistake?
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Actually there's a mod discussion about centralising all the rules right at the moment. In the mean time, see sticky posts at the top of the Bar for general rules, and at the top of other sections (eg For Sale) for forum-specific rules. And don't do anything which isn't compatible with a "fun, family-friendly" forum.
If you wish to discuss any of the rules, feel free to start a new topic, but bear in mind over the 4 years the club's been operating, the rules have been defined for a reason, not arbitrarily. This doesn't mean they won't be discussed, but does mean that considerable thought has probably already gone into them. Rules are only added after significant amounts of mod/admin discussion & debate, at the very least.
For example, if somebody thought the word "crap" was not acceptable, then it could easily be debated, and we'd weigh up people's opinions before deciding whether to add it to the filter. If only one parent out of hundreds didn't like it, it would probably stay put. OTOH, if many forum users found it unreasonable, it would go. Bear in mind though that the admins' decision is final, as they own and run the board and are ultimately responsible for it.
--- Quote ---Issuing general warnings regarding filter content without a comprehensive set of guidelines seems a little odd to be honest, and I realise the lot of a moderator is a difficult task requiring balance and good judgement, and the pay is...I'll risk it...poo!
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It's much simpler than that. If you post and the forum automatically changes your word to "!Expletive Deleted!", then you've crossed the boundary. If you then asterisk-out a word, then either you've edited the post to try to avoid the filter, or you wrote it like that in the first place, in which case you're clearly aware at some level that it's dubious word. So if in doubt, why go there?
att:
Why go there.....Because playing by all the rules all the time is boring......and it also prohibits growth in certain areas.........Drones R US :roll:
thermidorthelobster:
If you'd rather have an anarchic forum, then feel free to go and set one up. This isn't it.
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