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extreme90:
i'd go for steam seals 2BH,
leave it on a hill overnight then start it up and go straight down the hill, go down in 2nd on the overrun and see if its coughing its gut up with blue smoke

i really cant see it being rings or the engine generally worn out is it starts at the flick of a key
whats it starting like when upto op tempreture ??
if its ok starting then, then i would really rule out any serious mechanical problems

i have had one 200 how ever that emmitted a blue/grey hazey smoke that turned out to be the turbo dumping its oil not into the induction side but the exhaust side which when warm used to be like a train  :lol:

id say steam seals  :?

dan

zulublue:
Thanks Dan,

Would that make sense with it getting better the hotter the engine gets.
once its up to temperature it starts ok also.

Where are the steam seals?

Evilgoat:

--- Quote from: "TheBlueySilverThing" ---i'd go for steam seals 2BH,
leave it on a hill overnight then start it up and go straight down the hill, go down in 2nd on the overrun and see if its coughing its gut up with blue smoke

i really cant see it being rings or the engine generally worn out is it starts at the flick of a key
whats it starting like when upto op tempreture ??
if its ok starting then, then i would really rule out any serious mechanical problems

i have had one 200 how ever that emmitted a blue/grey hazey smoke that turned out to be the turbo dumping its oil not into the induction side but the exhaust side which when warm used to be like a train  :lol:

id say steam seals  :?

dan
--- End quote ---

Seen a turbo do this, in fact it was the Garett T34 on the Audi, was leaving a spectacular vapour trail and as these things you go, wasnt on our list of suspects.. In the case of mine dropped the downpipe and it was obvious, not sure how you'd tell on a deisel as it'll be covered in black gunk anyhoo. I was having oil pressure issues at the same time from the same problem. Aparently once it goes it leaves an ash deposit on the shaft that speeds up the death. Aparently the same can happen on water cooled turbos with the coolant, not sure of the 200TDI or indeed any landy turbo gets hot enough to use water cooling.

extreme90:
to see if its the turbo, take the inlet pipe off and see how much play there is in the turbine shaft, there should be a little, not a huge amount, if its hitting the snail housing then its goosed
take the outlet pipe of also and see if its dumping oil into the induction side
drop the exhaust down pipe off aswel to see if its dumping oil into the zaust

but if theres only a little play on the shaft then i wouldnt bother with the latter of the checks as they will draw blanks

the valve steam seals are in the cyl head and it requires dismantling to change them

parts that will be required will be a new head gasket, inlet/exhaust man gasket, rocker gasket, steam seals and i also like to replace the collets at the same time ( just personal preference tho)
all in all afink the last one i did came to 50 quid's worth of bits, but i cant be sure,

and is no more than a days work

dan

zulublue:
Thanks again Dan,  I will test that tomorrow.

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