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lostdreamer:
You know, the more I think about this the more it confuses me. Which is easy, but hey.

Ok, so the theory is that attacking a police officer or care worker should be treated no differently to attacking anyone else. I would expect the practice to be somewhat different tho...

PC: "Mr Scumbag was violent and abusive, having already attacked several members of the public and proceeding to attack myself and my college when we arrived on scene. Regrettably in the process of subduing him I ended up breaking his arm."
Scumbag: "No I never."
Judge: "Members of the jury, let me sum up the case for you. You have heard two conflicting statements, one from a reputable member of the law enforcement community and another from a lying criminal scumbag. You must choose which to believe."
Jury: "Guilty."
Judge: "Scumbag, this is the book. The court will now recess whilst I figure out just how much of it I can throw at you."

And as for the thought of attacking someone whom you are depending on to fix your bleeding arm just doesn't bear thinking about...
Doc: "Sister, why is there a patient strapped to a bed in the middle of the car park?"
Ward Sister: "His drunken shouting was upsetting the other patients. In order to ensure the highest possible standards of treatment for them I had to have him removed from the ward."
Doc: "Very sensible. You are aware that it is hailing outside, yes?"
Sister: "Oh yes."
Doc: "When are you intending to treat him anyway?"
Sister: "When we have treated all the more serious patients, the ward staff have taken their mandatory breaks and err...not even then seeing as how he attacked one of the nurses and I consider that to be refusing treatment."
Doc: "Is there nothing you intend to do for him?"
Sister: "Well, that cut should probably be cleaned I guess. Oh look, lemon juice. That should sterilize it nicely. Be back shortly!"


I mean, are people really so fantastically stupid that they think having a go at the people who are trying to help them is going to accomplish anything other than making the same people decide to let them suffer?

clbarclay:

--- Quote from: "BadgersRover" ---What their needs to be is not a small punishment, there should be a punishment big enough to deter them from ever doing it again, which a week inside is not gonna do for a drunk on giro day.
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I think the idea of a weak or 2 locked up is that no employer is wants to pay a wage to some whos not there to work, they may get away with it once but chances are they are out of a job.

The down side is this won't affect people without jobs to start with. In which case bring back the stocks (they've got to be cheaper to run than prisson).

littlepow:

--- Quote from: "clbarclay" ---
--- Quote from: "BadgersRover" ---What their needs to be is not a small punishment, there should be a punishment big enough to deter them from ever doing it again, which a week inside is not gonna do for a drunk on giro day.
--- End quote ---


I think the idea of a weak or 2 locked up is that no employer is wants to pay a wage to some whos not there to work, they may get away with it once but chances are they are out of a job.

The down side is this won't affect people without jobs to start with. In which case bring back the stocks (they've got to be cheaper to run than prisson).
--- End quote ---


Then just stop the benifits for the period of improsonment, followed by compusery work party duties to keep said benifits.
Remebering to reduce the benifits if they can afford to smoke or drink to excess, cause they are obviously getting too much if they waste it.

Lord Shagg-Pyle:
At the risk of sounding draconian on this, but American style 'chain gangs' would be interesting.
The law has been changed recently to cover assaults, intimidation and threats towards Emergency Services, including now Fire and Rescue teams, Ambulance and Health Staff and also HM Coastguard and Lifeboat crews. All that needs to be sorted now is equality in pay.
As mentioned in other threads, I get arsey when I hear from Magistrates, Politicians, Solicitors and Barristers, that I should accept abuse, threats and assaults as part of my job. What a load of cock!
I can be sworn as part of my job, but if I swear at a 'customer', I get hassled for it!
Sorry, but anyone who assaults Emergency teams should get the jail and a bit of hard graft. Their prison 'pay' should go towards paying the compensation to the victims.
I recall my son telling a little story of when he was in the Army and deployed during the Fire Strike.
A group of the local 'Chavalry' had torched a car and ambushed the RAF team that turned up. The RAF bods call for assistance and my lads team turns up in a Green Goddess. They get out, turned the hoses on the local scrotes and then give them some close up views of the toecaps of their boots.
The local Plod turned up and apparently the hard nuts (a group of 20)  didn't want to admit that they had been taken out by 6 squaddies.
Funnily enough, the attacks on the crews stopped after that. :wink:

Bush Tucker Man:

--- Quote from: "lostdreamer" ---I mean, are people really so fantastically stupid that they think having a go at the people who are trying to help them is going to accomplish anything other than making the same people decide to let them suffer?
--- End quote ---


Yes, some of them are so stupid :D


Of course we wouldn't let a seriously hurt drunk suffer, but we'd hav to make damned sure we didn't get injured whilst treating him/her.



--- Quote from: "Lord Shagg-Pyle" ---I recall my son telling a little story of when he was in the Army and deployed during the Fire Strike.
A group of the local 'Chavalry' had torched a car and ambushed the RAF team that turned up. The RAF bods call for assistance and my lads team turns up in a Green Goddess. They get out, turned the hoses on the local scrotes and then give them some close up views of the toecaps of their boots.
The local Plod turned up and apparently the hard nuts (a group of 20) didn't want to admit that they had been taken out by 6 squaddies.
Funnily enough, the attacks on the crews stopped after that

--- End quote ---


Love it :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

But it took 6??, or did 3 of them just sit & watch??

It's a pity that the (civilian) Fire Service aren't allowed react in the same manner

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