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redhand:
I spent three years living and working in Holland and Germany and was always made to feel welcome. Even though I was an immigrant. I also spent nearly 10 years living in North Wales and met with loads of anti-english racism.

It always makes me laugh that we call non "white anglo saxons" immigrants but English people living abroad are always ex-pats. Double standards spring to mind.

Unfortunately Racism and Nationalism are very closely intertwined in this nations Psyche. Elizabeth the 1st pased a law banning black people from working in London, because there were too many Englishmen without work. Barclays Bank became the instiution it is today and made most of it's money financing the Slave trade.

Anyone who promotes the slogan or ideal of England for the English is promoting racism. Most of our descendants arrived here as part of an invading army. or as refugees from religious persecutions. and before anyone starts slagging me I'm British and proud of it. My father is half Ulsterman half Scottish and my mother is half English half Welsh.

My philosophy is live and let live

screwy:

--- Quote ---Anyone who promotes the slogan or ideal of England for the English is promoting racism
--- End quote ---


I give up..... #-o  ](*,)

Nationalism is NOT the same as racism.

Race has nothing to do with colour.

QE1 - WTH has that got to do with anything? The slave trade? OFF TOPIC! And anyway, has history had all the WHITE slaves deleted from the records, and what has that to do with this thread????

Your philosophy is impeccable, but your history is terrible!! :lol:

Eeyore:
If folk aren't knocking the moderation herein, then please don't start with the semantics.  :roll:

In the modern vernacular nationalism has negative overtones, as does racism, Yes, I'm aware the two are not the same thing which is why I mentioned both.

If you really want an arguement however, then take it off line, but don't bate Moderators in public, it simply isn't respectful or wanted.

cheers
 8)
Eeyore

screwy:
Eyore I dont want an argument and I dont know how to make myself any clearer than I did. I was not criticising you or your moderation as noted in the first line of my reply.

I am merely saying that there is a world of difference between nationalism / national pride and racism / racists and by persisting to not acknowledge that difference you are deliberately merging the two things together. This is not fair nor reasoned debate. The only reason that nationalism can be taken with 'negative overtones' if if they are put there by the writer or speaker and by constant linking of the two remotely seperate ideas of nation and race, which I have been at pains to point out are not interchangeable words with the same meanings.

I have not bated nor shown you any disrespect and do not want an argument, merely to be shown the same respect in toward my views which are nationalist in that I love my country but NOT racist in that I do not discriminate on the grounds of racial background.

Finally, if you and I are in agreement that they are not the same thing then I trust that this can be the end of the matter.

Eeyore:
In agreement that Nationalsim and racsim are not the same things, yes.

In agreement with the bating issue?

I made a statement about a clip you posted, not about you as a person.  :?

Lets just say that your post was considered to be inflammatory (bacvk on topic again!) being a direct critisism of the words I used when Moderating your post.
 :roll:

If the matters gonna be ended, then we both need to understand what the issue was, I'm afraid.

Cheers
 8)
Eeyore

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