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I see that Staun are taking a stance against UK rip-offs

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SteveG:
Wolfie - the ones on the website are not the Staun copy. The copy looks externally identical to Staun, just without the "STAUN PRODUCTS" lettering on the top ring. Scorpion have placed pictures of this product and announced it as a new product, plus pricing in the "New Products" section of various 4x4 mags and IIRC all the LR mags, at the same time still using the Staun logos, pics and marketing copy in their adverts and on the website.

As far as I know, Staun, have spent money successfully protecting their patents in Australia and North America and so there is nothing stopping them from doing the same in Europe. Only thing affecting this would be time and money. Don't under estimate the costs involved of hiring UK lawyers to do this. I have no idea whether they intend to prosecute or not. The UK/Europe may not be a big enough market for them to make it worthwhile. Remember they are still growing the market here.


--- Quote from: "CNorman" ---
I have friends that have used Scorpion and speak very highly of them, the text above certainly does not seem to tie in with what i hear about Scorpion Racing.
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So you are showing your true colours now. You base your arguments/position based on the fact that your friends think they are a good company :roll:  :roll: Reminds of the neighbours that lived next door to the 7/7 bombers - "well he seemed like a nice guy"

When faced with the true facts that they have ripped off the designs of companies like X-Eng, Staun, Equipe 4x4 whilst there were in a current resale relationship it has no effect on your position!  :roll:  :roll:


--- Quote from: "CNorman" ---
What good does there words do? They are damaging scorpion and TBH i think if Scorpion were aware of this you would probably see them taking further action.
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What action do you propose Scorpion could take? Deformation of character? Slander? etc etc Ummmm that's a hard one. Let's try and take legal action against a company that is stating a true depiction of the events.  :roll:

I'll stop now, as I'm probably boring everyone with my rantings and there seems to be no point in trying to rationally discuss anything with you CNorman

Cheers

Steve

att:
If a company was ripping off my products, the family members of the offending comapny would be watched and details collated, this would then be passed onto to offending companies directors/proprietor, saves an awful lot of money in the long run, not to mention time.
And yes, it can be done on an international basis. :wink:

I will not be responding to this one as it is as plain as the nose that sits upon your face.

v40mav:
Having read and looked at some of the posts here guys I have to say that some of you I guess are being a bit hypocritical. [color=red]I have absolutely nothing to do with Sc*rpion products.[/color] I have bought products from them in the past as I have done with other companies and found them ok. Not great nor poor.

Look at your own vehicle and the products you use to repair / service / improve this. Tyres etc. Look at the tread patterns – how many have bought aftermarket products that look exactly similar to those of major brands. I’ve BFG MT’s on the disco, cost online approx £130-140 – Col*** offer as do others at similar remould with near identical pattern at £40-50 each. How many people will buy Col*** tyres. There are numerous threads about Insa Special Track – doesn’t that tread pattern look awfully similar to another companies.  :?:  :?:
Where do you think these companies got their design from.?. How many use genuine Land Rover parts when servicing vehicles ? How many of you have or use software on a pc that you do not have a licence for.  Who has bought a copy DVD or copied a CD for a mate ?  It is exactly the same.  :!:  :!:  :!:

I’ve been looking for a new front bumper for the 90 and how many options are out there that all look similar – a minor tweak here and there so as not to be exactly like someone else

Winches – again, in an ideal world I would like to buy a Warn/ superwinch, but cost does not allow this, but there are lots of similar looking alternatives. DO you honestly think all these companies came up with the same design  :?:

I agree that some businesses are more unscrupulous than others but at the end of the day in a free market we all have a choice. We choose to buy from one company or another -  If you can but a quality product that does a similar job and of a quality that meets the demands of the consumer then a number of buyers will buy the cheaper product. That is basic economics -  supply v demand v cost .  If the products do not meet the needs and are of an inferior quality then people will choose not to buy, and seek out better quality.

At the end of the day we all have a choice who we buy from.

CNorman:
SteveG.

I dont think there is any point us going on but i agree with alot of the above 2 posts. It is frankly crap Staun are talking. It would be as easy as pie to lodge a complaint that a large retailler is selling non official goods as originals, i also assume you buy BFGoodrich muds, Landrover genu#ine parts and all the expensive stuff at every occasion.

Staun are in no different position to any other british manufacturing firm with the exception that they would rather moan and rubbish the competition rather than convince us of their quality.  

Like you, we are both in a free market and i will not be buying Staun produts after seeing what a petty snivling company they are.

Jas278:
And  A lot of Folk wont buy Scorpion stuff on principle because of there "alledged" back /under hand dealings.........

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